Updated CAFE Standards - Page 2

BLcamaro10 · 07-29-2011, 04:53 PM

BS

Indpowr · 07-29-2011, 04:55 PM

2025 is 54mpg

woodstock · 07-29-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Soloshawn

With the new Government standards starting in 2017 will this kill the supposed new 6th Gen Camaro? At 54 mpg even with some really high mpg cars to balance out the lower mpg cars the end of the big V8 is very near. I will be keeping my 5th Gen car forever now. Chevrolet would keep the Corvette as it's low mpg car for performance and drop the Camaro.

Beg your pardon the new C-6 vette gets 32-33 miles per gallon,I get 30 with my C-5 vette.

Havok · 07-29-2011, 04:57 PM

Pretty sure by then there will be a ton of all electric vehicles.

Dznts · 07-29-2011, 04:59 PM

its all a consipiracy..lol..

fielderLS3 · 07-29-2011, 05:02 PM

54 MPG will never actually go through by 2025, because sanity will eventually prevail.

Second, CAFE has so many loopholes, you don't actually need 54 MPG to say you get 54 MPG. For example, I've heard that a Suburban already gets about 35 MPG.

cab2g · 07-29-2011, 05:03 PM

to be honest, if there is a market for it, there is no way manufacturers will stop selling V8s. Yes they will get more expensive, but you know what, it's all about priorities in life. If you really want the V8 be prepared for the $20/gal gas in 2025 and stiff guzzler taxes as well.

ibmrs · 07-29-2011, 05:04 PM

I'd worry a lot more about the gm engineers throwing out junk and the damn bean counters destroying the camaro with the 6th-7th gen than i would the government enforcing those new regulations any where near 2025.

fielderLS3 · 07-29-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cab2g

to be honest, if there is a market for it, there is no way manufacturers will stop selling V8s. Yes they will get more expensive, but you know what, it's all about priorities in life. If you really want the V8 be prepared for the $20/gal gas in 2025 and stiff guzzler taxes as well.

Not gonna happen.

cab2g · 07-29-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Not gonna happen.

well let me ask you this, how much did gas cost 15 years ago? Under $1 right? Well we're 4x that now. This is the new low. Mark my words. multipy by 4 again you get 16. close enough to $20 for me. Even if that doesn't happen. It'll definitely be at least double what we're paying now. I don't know a single 15 year period in which gas didn't at least double in price.

PYROLYSIS · 07-29-2011, 05:14 PM

Hopefully they will find a way to mass market the Volt. I won't buy one, but the Camaro needs the Volt and others like it to ensure longevity.

fielderLS3 · 07-29-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cab2g

well let me ask you this, how much did gas cost 15 years ago? Under $1 right? Well we're 4x that now. This is the new low. Mark my words. multipy by 4 again you get 16. close enough to $20 for me. Even if that doesn't happen. It'll definitely be at least double what we're paying now. I don't know a single 15 year period in which gas didn't at least double in price.

Adjusted for inflation, gas was the cheapest it has ever been just 12 years ago.

You're using the same logic that 10 years ago says the average house would cost over $500,000 by today. Don't you recognize a speculative investment bubble when you see one?

The Malthusians have been wrong for all of human history. What makes you think that will change now?

Apex Motorsports · 07-29-2011, 05:26 PM

CAFE stands for Corporate Average Fuel Economy. That doesn't mean ever car has to meet it, they just have to average out. With all the technology coming down the pipe it will be no problem.

chriscrash37 · 07-29-2011, 05:27 PM

I believe that is for the entire fleet. So there is an average allowance for cars that perform under that number ...

or maybe I'm wrong ... either way ... It's Friday afternoon and time for a gas guzzling drive home.

07-29-2011, 05:02 PM	#20
fielderLS3 Drives: 2016 Mazda6, 2011 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Portage, Wisconsin Posts: 4,049	54 MPG will never actually go through by 2025, because sanity will eventually prevail. Second, CAFE has so many loopholes, you don't actually need 54 MPG to say you get 54 MPG. For example, I've heard that a Suburban already gets about 35 MPG. __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE (Arrived 4/29/22) "The car is the closest thing we will ever create to something that is alive." . 2022 1SS 1LE (Coming Soon)

07-29-2011, 05:03 PM	#21
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	to be honest, if there is a market for it, there is no way manufacturers will stop selling V8s. Yes they will get more expensive, but you know what, it's all about priorities in life. If you really want the V8 be prepared for the $20/gal gas in 2025 and stiff guzzler taxes as well. __________________

07-29-2011, 05:14 PM	#25
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	Hopefully they will find a way to mass market the Volt. I won't buy one, but the Camaro needs the Volt and others like it to ensure longevity. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

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chriscrash37 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 98	I believe that is for the entire fleet. So there is an average allowance for cars that perform under that number ... or maybe I'm wrong ... either way ... It's Friday afternoon and time for a gas guzzling drive home.