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Old 09-22-2010, 01:12 PM   #15
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I didn't know the 6.2L was that bad on low end torque either. They need to put that v6 in a lil Ranger pick up. Now that would be fun!
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Old 09-22-2010, 01:25 PM   #16
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Hmmm, that's a great curve for towing, but why'd they go with the 5.3 GM instead of the more likely competitor. The Ford curve would still be a little better (pretty flat between 2-4k) but it looks like a cheap shot this way.
My guess, and it is just a guess, is because the 5.3L and former 4.6L owners of the world are who they want to convert here with the appeal being a sort of 'even better fuel economy than what you had before all while fixing those low end torque issues you guys keep complaining about' approach.
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Old 09-22-2010, 01:46 PM   #17
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I didn't know the 6.2L was that bad on low end torque either. They need to put that v6 in a lil Ranger pick up. Now that would be fun!
Don't get me wrong, I think the 6.2 Chevy has been the best gas engine truck on the market until maybe now. It makes great torque, but that Ford curve is shaped almost like a diesel's. And ya that'd rock in a Ranger.

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My guess, and it is just a guess, is because the 5.3L and former 4.6L owners of the world are who they want to convert here with the appeal being a sort of 'even better fuel economy than what you had before all while fixing those low end torque issues you guys keep complaining about' approach.
Good points
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:17 PM   #18
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Maybe we will see the SVT Lightning return but with a tricked out ecoboost version of some sort.
That would be very interesting. I've been wanting a FI truck.

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Ford releases a little bit more about the power, more specifically the torque:

Nice curves.

GG Ford.

While Ecoboost may not be a "new tech" to the industry, this is certainly a very good implementation of it.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:48 PM   #19
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What is the blue dotted line form 1k-2k?
Dosnt match the curve of the Ecoboost.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:50 PM   #20
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What is the blue dotted line form 1k-2k?
Dosnt match the curve of the Ecoboost.
to be honest I am not sure.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:55 PM   #21
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What is the blue dotted line form 1k-2k?
Dosnt match the curve of the Ecoboost.
I am 90% sure that is where the first turbo hits before hitting the 2nd turbo and the overlap is from being the engine being under light load. It's a sequential turbo I believe.
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:56 PM   #22
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Ford is really trying to prove the reliability of the ecoboost motor:

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09...s-durable.html
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:12 PM   #23
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Ford is really trying to prove the reliability of the ecoboost motor:

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09...s-durable.html
They are putting it through hell for sure. I don't know how these conditions relate to a high-mileage scenario. i.e. it's bulletproof now but how does it perform after 100k, 200k? I'm curious how the cost of ownership will compare to say the same rig outfitted with the 6.2L over time.
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They are putting it through hell for sure. I don't know how these conditions relate to a high-mileage scenario. i.e. it's bulletproof now but how does it perform after 100k, 200k? I'm curious how the cost of ownership will compare to say the same rig outfitted with the 6.2L over time.
You are right. We don't know. Although I am sure Ford has put the engines through the paces, at least in a test setting.

And I should have used the world durability instead of reliability.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:12 PM   #25
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They are putting it through hell for sure. I don't know how these conditions relate to a high-mileage scenario. i.e. it's bulletproof now but how does it perform after 100k, 200k? I'm curious how the cost of ownership will compare to say the same rig outfitted with the 6.2L over time.
Ditto, I'm sure the motor itself is strong enough- but how robust are all the complicated little components that are hard to diagnose that would go into an engine this complex. Still, I'm liking the concept though.
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I am 90% sure that is where the first turbo hits before hitting the 2nd turbo and the overlap is from being the engine being under light load. It's a sequential turbo I believe.
"Parallel twin-turbo " per Mike Rowe in vid
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:54 PM   #27
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Wow I didn't know the 5.3L was that bad on torque.
Yeah, it's not exactly a rocket. I have a 5.3L in my Silverado. I was originally going to get the 6.2L, but had such a hard time finding one that wasn't decked out in LTZ trim with all the whiz-bang options that I gave up. I got a good price on my truck and with my (then decent) Employee discount, I couldn't pass it up. I still have my regrets sometimes but I don't sweat it too much. My truck has done everything I've ever needed it to do.
I didn't buy it to tow a house or to drag race, so it's worked for me thus far.
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:08 PM   #28
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The Toyota Torque...um SPAZ...is weird to look at...what was going on there? Throttle sticking then they pull it off by hand then floor it again?
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