The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Americanmuscle11]

Originally Posted by Toyaholic

Comparing to an M3? Think you are overrating the pony.

OK, I've seen the track and number comparisions, but the Beamer is a hole different class of ride. (and payment, too) Mustang is def. the better bang for the buck, but I bet the M3 gets you laid more.

Overrating it? It does everything the M3 does for a whole lot less cash. Since when has a Mustang or a Camaro ever competed on the M3's level so well? If I had the money to buy a car with the performance of a car almost twice as much money I'd pick the first car...but that's just me. In the 1/4 both cars are very close within .1 of a second. The Mustang also handles as good on the road course. The Bmw is definitely a higher class of car, however it certainly doesn't hurt to benchmark such an incredible performing vehicle does it? Now to a more important issue...I have never relied on any type of vehicle to help me pick up women. Is that the reason you bought your Camaro?

[chevydude26]

Originally Posted by Supermans

If it did happen, I would leave this site as well. Comparing the two cars is relegated to this single thread, and all other Mustang talk is put into the Mega thread. That makes only two threads you have to read and respond to which is not that much. If you want the Camaro to be improved for the 6th gen, then my criticism of the 5th gen becomes more important than everyone loving what has been given to them all the time.

I don't guys i'm kind of leaning towards getting the mustang instead of the camaro...

and I think i saw you post at themustangsource awesome that you have both cars...

I guess i'm in the minority but I love both GM and Ford, but Ford is doing a better job in terms of quality right now throughout the whole line up...and sync is awesome

I feel like one of those pro wrestlers who switched their allegiance to the bad guys

[76z28]

sorry bmw fans but the mustang kicked the _P&_)* out of the m3....as in they were tied...and the mustang costs less
this new mustang is awesome...period ford I take my hat off to you
Chevy this a wake up call

[Toyaholic]

Originally Posted by Americanmuscle11

Overrating it? It does everything the M3 does for a whole lot less cash. Since when has a Mustang or a Camaro ever competed on the M3's level so well? If I had the money to buy a car with the performance of a car almost twice as much money I'd pick the first car...but that's just me. In the 1/4 both cars are very close within .1 of a second. The Mustang also handles as good on the road course. The Bmw is definitely a higher class of car, however it certainly doesn't hurt to benchmark such an incredible performing vehicle does it? Now to a more important issue...I have never relied on any type of vehicle to help me pick up women. Is that the reason you bought your Camaro?

Dude! it was a joke.
The LS3 was a Christmas present for my wife. Don't get me wrong, I drive it as much as she does. She wont drive mine... too much power.

[Mindz]

Originally Posted by 76z28

sorry bmw fans but the mustang kicked the _P&_)* out of the m3....as in they were tied...and the mustang costs less
this new mustang is awesome...period ford I take my hat off to you
Chevy this a wake up call

merging this as it's been merged 3 times already...

[vernal]

Someone said the same stuff keeps coming up in cycles, and as someone who agrees (having read all 250 pages or whatever)...now, for something completely different:

I've driven both the 2010 Mustang and Camaro extensively, and I'm assuming the seat in the 2011 is the same. My right butt cheek falls asleep in the Mustang seat on long drives, but not in the Camaro. Coincidentally, I had the same problem in my 92 5.0. I'm 6'2, 180, to avoid any off-point commentary on weight issues.

You're welcome.

[28.]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Guys,

I OWN and make suspension parts for both the Camaro and Mustang. BOTH cars have pluses and minuses. I like them both but for different reasons. What I enjoy most is there is an intense rivalry between Ford and Chevy which benefits EVRTYONE. Chevrolet will sell more Camaros. Ford will sell more Mustangs. Most important, the competition will breed better Camaros and Mustangs.

Is there a hands down winner? I doubt it.

Off the showroom floor I would take the Camaro because it is a more refined automobile.

Modified??? That is a really tough question and why the debate rages on.

Only your opinion which is fine.. But I thought the exact opposite when I did my shopping..

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Americanmuscle11

Overrating it? It does everything the M3 does for a whole lot less cash. Since when has a Mustang or a Camaro ever competed on the M3's level so well? If I had the money to buy a car with the performance of a car almost twice as much money I'd pick the first car...but that's just me. In the 1/4 both cars are very close within .1 of a second. The Mustang also handles as good on the road course. The Bmw is definitely a higher class of car, however it certainly doesn't hurt to benchmark such an incredible performing vehicle does it? Now to a more important issue...I have never relied on any type of vehicle to help me pick up women. Is that the reason you bought your Camaro?

He is right though, the m3 is a total different class. The interior of the mustang is nice, nicer than it has been in the past by a long shot, but not m3 level. The m3 is a great car and is honestly a better car than the mustang, hands down. Maybe not for the price difference, but I love muscle and mustangs/camaros/challengers, but given the choice, an m3 would no doubt be sitting in my driveway.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by chevydude26

I don't guys i'm kind of leaning towards getting the mustang instead of the camaro...

and I think i saw you post at themustangsource awesome that you have both cars...

I guess i'm in the minority but I love both GM and Ford, but Ford is doing a better job in terms of quality right now throughout the whole line up...and sync is awesome

I feel like one of those pro wrestlers who switched their allegiance to the bad guys

I love both cars too.. Even though I'm more critical now of the Camaro, I still enjoyed driving it for the year I had it. If you get the convertible Camaro, you will have zero vision problems..lol.. So it boils down to what you feel best in. Drive all the cars you are interested period, and pick the one you can afford first, and the one that will make you happy second. I've posted in other forums and have gotten some good people to respond who are knowledgeable. The problem is there are so many Mustang forums it is hard to pick just one while this site is the only Camaro forum still alive and growing. Either one you pick, you can't go wrong.

Originally Posted by vernal

Someone said the same stuff keeps coming up in cycles, and as someone who agrees (having read all 250 pages or whatever)...now, for something completely different:

I've driven both the 2010 Mustang and Camaro extensively, and I'm assuming the seat in the 2011 is the same. My right butt cheek falls asleep in the Mustang seat on long drives, but not in the Camaro. Coincidentally, I had the same problem in my 92 5.0. I'm 6'2, 180, to avoid any off-point commentary on weight issues.

You're welcome.

You should get that right but cheek looked at.

However I get that same problem if I sit too long browsing around Camaro5.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by 76z28

sorry bmw fans but the mustang kicked the _P&_)* out of the m3....as in they were tied...and the mustang costs less
this new mustang is awesome...period ford I take my hat off to you
Chevy this a wake up call

Still amazing to watch. I would love to see this same comparison to the Camaro on the same track as well..

[Americanmuscle11]

Originally Posted by Toyaholic

Dude! it was a joke.
The LS3 was a Christmas present for my wife. Don't get me wrong, I drive it as much as she does. She wont drive mine... too much power.

I understand that I was just having some fun . I like the Mustang, Camaro and Challenger. If I could buy an M3 I would bmw makes some great cars.

[Sax1031]

Rick from Livernois posted this about their 2011 GT auto. Great run/s.

Today, I went to the track with our 2011 Mustang GT auto.

Only new mod was our aluminum 1-piece driveshaft. Previous mods were Stainless Works Headers, Catted Mid-Pipe, and Catback, 4.10 Ring & Pinion, Livernois Motorsports Dyno Tune, and skinnies/drag radials.

The car still has the stock airbox and no suspension mods other than a swaybar relocation bracket.

The next mods will be a converter and CAI.

The weather was better than previously

Density Altitude - 1939
Air Temp - 76 Degrees F
Barometric Pressure - 29.97 Inches Hg
Relative Humidity - 48%

Best ET 11.69 @ 117.55 mph




Also ran 11.70, 11.72, and 11.75 @ 117 mph

For those that think we have an optimistic dyno, the car doesn't even make 400 RWHP.

Regards,

Rick LeBlanc
Livernois Motorsports

[8cd03gro]

WOW. Bravo to livernois. I believe evo was making some passes with a blower tonight. I'm not sure though, that is just based on what their facebook said.

[brick777]

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