Are you concerned about the Government putting an end to V8's?

[SS 376]

Kind of sad to see threads like this. There must have already been dozens of threads like this already. But to me when people cry "CAFE is the end of V8's", to me that's saying you don't believe in American ingenuity and you believe some damn smart people at GM are too stupid to come up with a car that's fast and could adhere to whatever new standards are coming. And to me, that's pretty depressing.

I mean, look at the '69 Camaro SS and look at the 2010 SS. The original got maybe 12 mpg and ran maybe a 14.5 quarter. Our 2010 SS will get what, 22-24 MPG and run a 13 flat. The 2010 SS is faster in a straight line, faster around a turn, stops harder, gets better fuel economy, and is light years safer than the original. So, do I think GM could build a car that gets 48 MPG and runs a 12.5 or something ridiculous? Uh, yes. You guys keep doubting Americans, but I'll keep believing in them.

[OUR72GTO]

NO

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

First and final warning, this is a good topic but political talk can easily get it closed or deleted. Keep it clean and discuss only the issue (or lack there-of) but do not turn this into a political debate.

I have to stay out of this thread then...lol...

Originally Posted by Can-Am

Kind of sad to see threads like this. There must have already been dozens of threads like this already. But to me when people cry "CAFE is the end of V8's", to me that's saying you don't believe in American ingenuity and you believe some damn smart people at GM are too stupid to come up with a car that's fast and could adhere to whatever new standards are coming. And to me, that's pretty depressing.

I mean, look at the '69 Camaro SS and look at the 2010 SS. The original got maybe 12 mpg and ran maybe a 14.5 quarter. Our 2010 SS will get what, 22-24 MPG and run a 13 flat. The 2010 SS is faster in a straight line, faster around a turn, stops harder, gets better fuel economy, and is light years safer than the original. So, do I think GM could build a car that gets 48 MPG and runs a 12.5 or something ridiculous? Uh, yes. You guys keep doubting Americans, but I'll keep believing in them.

Those cars were Tanks back then... If any would get into an accident with today's Camaro it would tear it in half.. Safer for hitting a wall perhaps but not safer in a car by car high speed accident.. And I think you hit the nail on the head, American ingenuity is a great thing and the current V8 is an example of that. However there is a limit to that technology and currently the push is to get rid of it and the Govt. is paying for many of these "gas guzzlers" that fall into the "clunker" category and is paying you to get rid of them and take them off the road for good.. It's only a matter of time the V8 is gone...

[TAG UR IT]

Good job keeping this civil.

If the govt tries to take my V8......

[FenwickHockey65]

No.

[SS 376]

Originally Posted by Supermans

I have to stay out of this thread then...lol...



Those cars were Tanks back then... If any would get into an accident with today's Camaro it would tear it in half.. Safer for hitting a wall perhaps but not safer in a car by car high speed accident.. And I think you hit the nail on the head, American ingenuity is a great thing and the current V8 is an example of that. However there is a limit to that technology and currently the push is to get rid of it and the Govt. is paying for many of these "gas guzzlers" that fall into the "clunker" category and is paying you to get rid of them and take them off the road for good.. It's only a matter of time the V8 is gone...

I hear you for sure, but to me what you're saying is no different than someone saying in 1972 that there was no way in hell a V8 could get 20 MPG. Or that NASA couldn't put men on the moon. Just my opinion. I don't know enough about CAFE or automotive technology to guess at what's gonna happen in five or ten years, so I'm not assuming anything...

[broncosman]

Originally Posted by irocnroll

This whole Fuel Economy to cut down on Global warming is BS. There is no proof that this is causing the global warming issue. If that were the case, why are Mars Ice Caps melting as well?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-warming.html

Pshhhhhhhht... dude, so we can move there? Duuuuuuh

hahahhaha

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Good job keeping this civil.

If the govt tries to take my V8......

We're in Texas bro... they know better

[MikesZ]

Well, let's just hope all cars don't come down to this! I present the "Kei" car.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by irocnroll

This whole Fuel Economy to cut down on Global warming is BS. There is no proof that this is causing the global warming issue. If that were the case, why are Mars Ice Caps melting as well?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-warming.html

I bet they weren't melting before "Spirit" and "Opportunity" started driving all over the place there!!!!

</sarcasm>

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by kopacko

No one is going to take away your V8....good lord...how do people come up with this stuff?

Ammunition for my handguns went from $10 for 50 rounds to $18 with a two box limit. Have you seen the prices for assault weapons lately? .223 ammo was $180 for 1000 rounds..Guess what it is now? $429

There will come a time where hp decreases and or taxation will diminish the V8.

Nuff said!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Ammunition for my handguns went from $10 for 50 rounds to $18 with a two box limit. Have you seen the prices for assault weapons lately? .223 ammo was $180 for 1000 rounds..Guess what it is now? $429

There will come a time where hp decreases and or taxation will diminish the V8.

Nuff said!

"sky is falling"?

Are you certain that that isn't due to State sales and penal taxes (I live in NY, and they're terrible here...)...and not federal?
And I'm afraid to open this can-o-worms...but how is weapons and ammunition related at all to automotive powertrain?