Firearms Section

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

CZ75 & clones are pretty nice in 9mm, many variations from different mfg's, plastic lowers, SA, DA, Polygonal Rifling, etc... I'm too old school, pistols are steel not plastic... so I'm probably not the best advice you'll get for your first pistolero.

EAA imports the Tanfoglio line of CZ clones, the high end models are very well made.

http://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns

Yeah steel pistols is hard to live by any more. I know where you are coming from and 10 years ago I was in the same boat. Although I am a .45 man and you can not discredit getting 13 rounds out of a polymer gun vs your average 7 or 8 in a 1911. You will really have to work hard on breaking or wearing out both.

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Yeah steel pistols is hard to live by any more. I know where you are coming from and 10 years ago I was in the same boat. Although I am a .45 man and you can not discredit getting 13 rounds out of a polymer gun vs your average 7 or 8 in a 1911. You will really have to work hard on breaking or wearing out both.

I'm kind of a half-hypocrite too, my first pistol was a S&W 9mm with an aluminum lower. I'd like to have it back. Poly's are a definite weight saver for carry, but steel makes a harsh shooter a bit more bearable.

[rebelyell22]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Are you thinking about using this for your carry gun or are you going to buy another once you get your permit?

I'll get something else later on if I go 9mm. I don't have time to get my CCW right now. Would I be better off getting a .40 or .45?

[PHXLT1]

I must be old too or even older because I like wheel guns. These new plastic guns cannot be denied. They do their job and do it well. Still though, to have my Colt Anaconda in 44 mag would be sweet. I miss that gun the most.

[rebelyell22]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

I do not own a 9mm for self defense but I have thought about buying one to plink with. Super cheap ammo. Although if just plinking might as well use a match .22lr. You can get those about the same price and it is about the most fun for a gun to start off with. Hardly any recoil and depending on the grain of the round it shoots really flat and will make you more accurate. When you go for your CCW then you can pick a round that is better suited for stopping power. If you can shoot all day for $30 you will practice and have more fun. I am going to shoot tomorrow to sight in my semi auto .308 for the first time with iron sights. I probably will go through $20 just to sight it properly out to 100 yards iron sights. Then add my scope and probably add another $20. So tomorrow I will most likely go through $100 in ammo and that is Walmart Federal at $17.50 per 20 rounds. Might be one of the reasons you have not shot the .270 that much. For $100 you can shoot almost 1000 rounds of .22LR, About 500 rounds of 9mm. The more you shoot the more you will want to shoot and keep going is my experience. Plus you can get alot cooler targets to play with for .22Lr. Just my $.02

I have access to a browning buckmark, and a 10/22. Want something a little more substantial and fun.

[ChrisBlair]

With today's ammunition choices, there's no reason to feel you would be making a compromise by choosing 9mm if you had a 9mm pistol instead of a larger caliber.

[rebelyell22]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

With today's ammunition choices, there's no reason to feel you would be making a compromise by choosing 9mm if you had a 9mm pistol instead of a larger caliber.

Kind of what I was thinking. Less knock down power, but more rounds.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by rebelyell22

I'll get something else later on if I go 9mm. I don't have time to get my CCW right now. Would I be better off getting a .40 or .45?

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

With today's ammunition choices, there's no reason to feel you would be making a compromise by choosing 9mm if you had a 9mm pistol instead of a larger caliber.

Originally Posted by rebelyell22

Kind of what I was thinking. Less knock down power, but more rounds.

Yeah, it all boils down to personal preference. You could debate with people all day and night over 9mm vs .40 vs .45. Whatever you feel is best for you, go for it. As long as you're proficient it'll get the job done.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by rebelyell22

Just a plinking gun for now, but I'll probably eventually get my CCW. I have a model 700 in .270 that my dad got me for Christmas 5 or 6 years ago, but it's only had 5 or so rounds through it. Not the tool for what I do (not hunting)

Maybe take a look at what's available in .17 HMR. Much flatter-shooting than .22LR.


Norm

[Mr Twisty]

Wheel guns will always be awesome! And no FTF FTE problems

9mm is a great round, and cheap.


I wouldn't worry too much about the caliber (within reason) of my first pistol, if you don't shoot much, any caliber is good, and the cost isn't drastic when you're only shooting 50 rds a month or less.

If you end up shooting a lot, you'll know pretty quick what your next pistol should be.

[sherob]

Yeah... I started out w/ a S&W Model 66 years ago... blew thru 38's plinking at friends ranches.

Then got serious and moved up... now, like cars, much improved taste.

Although, I do miss that wheel gun.

[ChrisBlair]

Knockdown power...

Impact power of a .45 vs a 9mm is very roughly 2x all other things being equal, or so I read.

But for "knockdown" the term implies that the force of the bullet will take a man off his feet by virtue of the impact, and some rounds or calibers are better at it than others.

Respectfully no. The energy carried by the bullet is not doing that. The pain and shock and trauma may cause a human to fall down but they are not propelled backward by the force of the round.

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yeah, it all boils down to personal preference. You could debate with people all day and night over 9mm vs .40 vs .45. Whatever you feel is best for you, go for it. As long as you're proficient it'll get the job done.

I would agree with this statement. I only like .45 for wound cavity size. Lets more blood exit faster. So that is me sharing my personal preference. Since you already have the plinking guns might as well go 9mm or for true kicks shotgun. Although I love shotguns to be truthful if I had to pick one gun for everything. Hard to conceal though. lol

True self defense home gun is a shotgun in my honest opinion. Fun to blow stuff up with and can shoot skeet or trap against friends.

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by PHXLT1

I must be old too or even older because I like wheel guns. These new plastic guns cannot be denied. They do their job and do it well. Still though, to have my Colt Anaconda in 44 mag would be sweet. I miss that gun the most.

Still have a spot for a nice .44 mag in my safe. Colt Anaconda was nice. Honestly my favorite .44 mag to shoot is a Taurus with the barrel compensator. Smooth gun if it did not fall apart on you when you shot it. Smith and wesson did a custom .44mag with barrel compensator and might be my next purchase.