FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 233

SpeedIsLife · 03-14-2016, 06:53 PM

A V6 in a Sonic would be a really nose heavy, torque steering, poor handling turd.

Now an AWD 2.0T Sonic SS?...that's more like it...

*DGthe3* · 03-14-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

A V6 in a Sonic would be a really nose heavy, torque steering, poor handling turd.

Now an AWD 2.0T Sonic SS?...that's more like it...

Its not like trading 2 cylinders for a turbo & intercooler would make it any less nose heavy. Or eliminate torque steer. Or help handling.

Adding AWD (which could be done to a V6 just as easily as a T4) would only address torque steer. Well ... it would help weight distribution by adding 100+ lbs to the back end. But that doesn't take any weight off the nose. And more mass almost always equals worse handling.

FenwickHockey65 · 03-15-2016, 10:31 AM

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But public reception to the Avista wasn’t enthusiastic enough to prompt Buick brass to give it a production thumbs-up. “It was purely a concept and meant to generate some buzz,” DiSalle says. “No other plans for now.”

-_-

SpeedIsLife · 03-15-2016, 12:15 PM

Good plan Buick.

This is why you're irrelevant outside of China.

FenwickHockey65 · 03-17-2016, 04:32 PM

Was discussing this in the Lounge, thought I'd post it here too.

The GM80 car.

*DGthe3* · 03-17-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Was discussing this in the Lounge, thought I'd post it here too.

The GM80 car.

reminds me of a 4th gen

FenwickHockey65 · 03-17-2016, 07:30 PM

That's because it is...or was supposed to be.

GM80 was the F-body replacement. FWD Camaros and Firebirds.

Angrybird 12 · 03-17-2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

That's because it is...or was supposed to be.

GM80 was the F-body replacement. FWD Camaros and Firebirds.

Glad that never happened...

FenwickHockey65 · 03-17-2016, 09:35 PM

Supposedly one of the mods at GMI asked a GM engineer why the hell the 4th gens had a ridiculously long front overhang and the response was it was originally designed for a FWD layout.

*DGthe3* · 03-18-2016, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Supposedly one of the mods at GMI asked a GM engineer why the hell the 4th gens had a ridiculously long front overhang and the response was it was originally designed for a FWD layout.

Alright ... whats the excuse for the 3rd gen then?

It doesn't exactly have a clipped nose ...

FenwickHockey65 · 03-18-2016, 08:41 PM

After 28 years, the W-body will finally be laid to rest in June.

PYROLYSIS · 03-20-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

reminds me of a 4th gen

That front end is a carbon copy of a C4 Vette.

GrandAmGT · 03-20-2016, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

That's because it is...or was supposed to be.

GM80 was the F-body replacement. FWD Camaros and Firebirds.

Just like when Ford was going to make the Mustang FWD but the fan outrage forced them to reverse course so they turned that abandoned design into the Probe.

its a syn · 03-21-2016, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I remember when it was rumored the Monza of the mid 70's was origionally supposed to be the Camaro replacement. Chevys Mustang II. Glad that never happened either.

In 1975 you could get a 5.7 liter in one. It put out.......wait for it.......wait some more.......125 HP!! That must have taken some engineering to make a 350 c.i. turn out so few of horses.LOL. The good old smogtastic days.

03-17-2016, 04:32 PM	#3253
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	Was discussing this in the Lounge, thought I'd post it here too. The GM80 car. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

03-17-2016, 07:30 PM	#3255
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	That's because it is...or was supposed to be. GM80 was the F-body replacement. FWD Camaros and Firebirds. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

03-17-2016, 09:35 PM	#3257
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	Supposedly one of the mods at GMI asked a GM engineer why the hell the 4th gens had a ridiculously long front overhang and the response was it was originally designed for a FWD layout. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

03-18-2016, 08:41 PM	#3259
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	After 28 years, the W-body will finally be laid to rest in June. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

03-14-2016, 06:53 PM	#3249
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,241	A V6 in a Sonic would be a really nose heavy, torque steering, poor handling turd. Now an AWD 2.0T Sonic SS?...that's more like it...

03-15-2016, 12:15 PM	#3252
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,241	Good plan Buick. This is why you're irrelevant outside of China.