Will officer Slager do time for murder?

[JantzenOKC]

The video also showed the officer going back picking up the taser, bringing it back and dropping it next to the guy he just shot. Good luck explaining that one...

[BigBlock69RS]

Originally Posted by f5journal

...and the video is pretty obviously staged. I'll stop there

No preconceived notions here, no sir not a one...

[nyrfan]

Originally Posted by JantzenOKC

The video also showed the officer going back picking up the taser, bringing it back and dropping it next to the guy he just shot. Good luck explaining that one...

That was what I meant by lying.


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[rray]

That is a cut and dry case of cowardly murder of an unarmed man who cannot always afford to pay his child support running for his dear life and loosing it. Nothing more than the ultimate show of bully power.

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[Expunge]

Taking Devil's advocate position. (Not in anyway condoning the actions of the fired and jailed former officer)

But... if the victim had not struggled and tried to escape from the (former) officer this would never have occured. Right or wrong that is the truth.

Also what is the history of the victim?
Has he been in jail for violent crimes? (and did the former officer know about it)
Was he wanted?
I have not seen any info on this. But again, why run?

Plain and simple, RESPECT the officer and this situation will NOT occur. It sucks now because not 1 but 2 lives are ended, the victim's and the former officer. And why, because the victim CHOSE to RUN.

My 2 cents.

[AZCamaroFan]

Here's the information:

He got pulled over for a Broken Tail Light and ran because he had a warrant out for not paying child support.

Don't think that qualifies for getting shot in the back 4 times.

[kalimus]

Doesn't matter what the victim did in all honesty. While I strongly maintain that these idiots should stop running the cops (and WTF was this guy doing out of the car and in the park after being pulled over for a tail-light?!), this officer very clearly had other options than to use deadly force. The man was not running with any real speed, and the officer could easily (or should have been able to easily) catch up and tackle him. Hell, he had time to radio for backup, and still catch up to him even if he jumped after him on one leg.

If the man were armed, and the officer already had his struggle and could not subdue him... I think that may be a different story, but that doesn't appear to be the case. The man is supposedly unarmed, which means he is not posing a threat to either the officer nor any other person in the area. Additionally, he doesn't appear to have assaulted the officer, but is only guilty of resisting arrest.

TBH, this looks like a pretty cut and dry use of excessive force, and unless some sort of game changing evidence shows up, I would say the officer likely will (and should) be convicted.

[pickwithaustin]

Looks bad for the officer and while we need to await full investigation, I'd venture to say that the officer is severely wrong and that will probably be proven once all details are looked at. If all is as it appears on the surface, this guy DID NOT deserve to be shot. Not by a long shot!

That said, I have an incredible solution to prevent this from ever happening again:

1. do not break the law
2. when you do, and you're stopped... don't run

Regardless of my color, I have no fear of ever being shot by the police, because I follow that two step rule above.

[Expunge]

I am not saying it was NOT Excessive Force. It looks pretty cut and dry that the actions of the former cop will put him in jail for murder. What he did was absolutely WRONG. I am not disputing that.

What I am saying is this situation could have been AVOIDED if the person had not RUN. In what society is it permissable to RUN from the LAW? Their are no justifications. If you are wanted for child support, man up and take care of it.

Their are so MANY ways this situation could have been avoided.
- victim takes care of child support
- victim doesn't run
- cop doesnt shoot the victim in the back

The first 2 were in the victims control and because he CHOSE poorly gave an opportunity for a 3rd choice that is no longer in his control and the victim is now deceased.

[chuckstacamaro]

Video shows an attempt to cover up a Major Mistake. Suspects attempts to take officers Taser, but drops it as he is running away. Officer Shoots unarmed guy in back, then officer retrieves dropped Taser and place drop it next to downed suspect. A major tragedy for all families involved.

Especially in this day and age when all eyes are upon Law Enforcement. LEO's have better make the right decisions before acting.

Unfortunately for LEO's, a hesitant decision, (although for the public), might end up being the Right decision for the suspect, may end up being the Wrong decision for the LEO when trying to save a life. Difficult times we live in.

[Spartan01]

Originally Posted by layzurguy

All that being said, when the TWO officers were standing over a limp body, handcuffed, being searched.... Did either one of them even think of flipping him over and even attempt to save the perpetrators life. Doesn't matter if he committed a crime, he is still a human being and deserves every effort possible. There is a Hippocratic oath that should be adhered to, especially in the public service sector. The second officer definitely needs to be spoken to about it.
I don't envy the police dealing with stresses of the job, but that's what they train for.....hopefully.

Ok, first of all, the Hippocratic oath, or the modern version of it, is taken by fledgling doctors when they graduate from medical school, not police officers.
An oath only applies if you actually take it.

I understand what you are saying, I truly do, but in the age of AIDS/HIV, HepC, and other blood born pathogens, many police protocols involve calling for an ambulance and letting the medics do that job.

As I understand it, according to the fleeing felon statute, that applied in my jurisdiction, you could shoot a fleeing felon in the back, only if you had exhausted every other option, and it was likely that you could not recapture them at a later time, and they still posed serious threat/were going to commit more crimes or destroy evidence.

Here is a tip- deploy your Asp baton, and throw it like a boomerang. This technique works surprisingly well.

Or how about this- run after the guy and tackle him. That technique is also surprisingly effective, especially if he is an old man running away very slowly.

[90503]

I'd run too if I was being tased for a tail-light and back child support....Neither one will get rectified now...

[layzurguy]

Originally Posted by Spartan01

Ok, first of all, the Hippocratic oath, or the modern version of it, is taken by fledgling doctors when they graduate from medical school, not police officers.
An oath only applies if you actually take it.

I understand what you are saying, I truly do, but in the age of AIDS/HIV, HepC, and other blood born pathogens, many police protocols involve calling for an ambulance and letting the medics do that job.

As I understand it, according to the fleeing felon statute, that applied in my jurisdiction, you could shoot a fleeing felon in the back, only if you had exhausted every other option, and it was likely that you could not recapture them at a later time, and they still posed serious threat/were going to commit more crimes or destroy evidence.

Here is a tip- deploy your Asp baton, and throw it like a boomerang. This technique works surprisingly well.

Or how about this- run after the guy and tackle him. That technique is also surprisingly effective, especially if he is an old man running away very slowly.

You are right, I miss spoke, but maybe he forgot this one.

On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have
the courage to hold myself
and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution
my community and the agency I serve.

[Mutant Racer]

Yup Murphy sure did a number on those 2 guys. Anybody want to know something totally messed up? That former cop's wife is 8 months pregnant and he might be facing the death penalty. That is one nasty can of worms.

Unless the news article I read is wrong of course.