Official - Shelby GT350 Mustang debut

[truth411]

Originally Posted by markgws6

I have plenty of track time in my 1LE so I'm no stranger to tracking a car and actually driving it to near it's full potential and not just talking about tracks from PS experience. I think some parts of hwys 1 and 84 here are much better than the Nordschleife would ever be, but too bad I cannot do the speeds they can on that "track" here. I take it you all have driven that track then? Sorry for taking us on a tangent though... back to the GT350. It's a beast for sure but still think it's not a "serious" competitor to the current Z/28. We shall see...

The only real weakness on the gt350 vs the Z28 I see, is the brakes. The Cabron brakes for the Z28 cost at least $10k (minimum), there the same brakes used on the C7 Z06.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by i2disturbedSS

Agree on everything and +1 on the bold



The push button start? What's the big deal? Standard equipment for the new mustang

I wasn't aware it was SE. I'm wondering because of the key recall by GM, this was motivation to have this setup for their new gen Mustang. We should see this available for the 6th gen...hopefully.

[ford20]

Originally Posted by archtaan

From Ford press Q&A

• No dry sump
• No direct injection
• Extra engine displacement is all bore
• Everything from the A pillar forward is different from the GT. In the rear, the rear lower diffuser is different but rear quarter panels are the same.
• Benchmarked against 4 cars: 911 Carrera S (main benchmark), Ferrari California (since it is a front engine FPC), C7, and Z28.
• "It is its own beast." Do not want to equate it as a Boss replacement or GT500.
• How does it compare to the 302 or GT500 on the track? "Not really comparable. Way faster.. an order of magnitude faster"
• About same production numbers as the GT500

295s up front and 305s out back!
It also has an 8200 rpm redline!

URGH

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

8200ish redline.

I remember running my 2V to its 5700 rpm and thinking it was fun. 7k on the Shelby is neat too....8200 is insane.

I have an 8300 RPM redline ..... not that I ever really go that high though

Originally Posted by derklug

All I know is that as soon as my wife saw the video clip, she ran my checkbook through the shredder. I guess the Boss isn't getting a stablemate.

Yeah, I'm thinking of putting the engine back together and just selling the car right now haha.

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Like trashmanssd pointed out, the R&D cost can be spread out across a much higher volume. Also I'm pretty sure the 5.0L V8's used in Ford trucks are a variation of the performance 5.0L used in the Mustang GT which would spread the cost out even more. As far as the Trinity motor, I cannot comment on that since I do not have enough knowledge about that specific motor. However, since a flat plane crank V8 is so much different than any other V8 that Ford is now or has produced, it will have taken significant R&D to make sure it is suitable for consumer use and for Ford to offer a warranty on it.

*EDIT*
Just saw this Q&A with Jamal Hameedi (for people that don't know, he is GLOBAL PERFORMANCE VEHICLE CHIEF ENGINEER, FORD MOTOR COMPANY)

Q: How much were you able to share with the 5.0L?
A: There are little common parts (i.e. things in the valve train), but it’s pretty much an all-new engine: new heads, new casting, new intake, new crank, new pistons, new rods, new halfshafts.

Q: Why no carbon ceramic brakes?
A: I think you’ll find out later that affordability was a big part of this car.

Q: So keeping price down was a big part of that?
A: Yes. That was a priority with this car.

Now I'm really curious about price..

Bad news for me since I was hoping to be able to use the heads for my upcoming build :/

Originally Posted by truth411

The only real weakness on the gt350 vs the Z28 I see, is the brakes. The Cabron brakes for the Z28 cost at least $10k (minimum), there the same brakes used on the C7 Z06.

And the tires. Street legal notch below racing slicks > MPSS

[Number 3]

CC brakes are only a $5,000 option on Corvettes, not 10k

[i2disturbedSS]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

I wasn't aware it was SE. I'm wondering because of the key recall by GM, this was motivation to have this setup for their new gen Mustang. We should see this available for the 6th gen...hopefully.

Truthly every car I've seen on M6G they've had the push start. It could be a option maybe someone actually knows...
I agree though seems like they put the push start to one up GM which I see it a good thing because I believed the Camaro should've had push start in the first year, so maybe they will put it in the 6th gen.

[i2disturbedSS]

Originally Posted by ford20

And the tires. Street legal notch below racing slicks > MPSS

Yes so maybe it can hang with the Z/28 but more of a threat to a ZL1 and maybe or if a 6th gen ZL1

[eric n]

Hey guys, I've been a pretty inactive member who was at one time considering a 2011 Camaro. When ford came out with an almost 7000 rpm 5.0 (2011) mustang, I went that way. Honestly I tend to like mustangs more, but appreciate all American Muscle. I mean what kind of idiot doesn't recognize that gm is making some of the best chassis and handling components in the world!!!

That said, many of the comments I've seen on this board are absolutely fair and reasonable. Nice to see this on a camaro board. It's going to be great fun to see how the gt350 stacks up against the next gen camaro, which will no doubt raise the bar again.

The companies play who has a bigger one and we the enthusiasts win BIG TIME. See you all on the road, hopefully in a year I'll be in the new gt350, though the new z06 seems A-FREAKIN'-MAZING!

[sizl1]

Did anyone notice how they're "phasing out" the Shelby association? The name is barely featured on the car except for the "invisible" text hidden on the front spoiler where no-one will look.

[khell86]

Yeah they stated the more the name is on the car the more licensing fee's they pay. Ford is wanting to get away from the name.

[Fenderaddict2]

Best thing about the GT350 is the timing as it means GM will have to launch the C6 with a high-performance variant right outta the gate. I'm looking forward to some cross shopping next year as I consider my possible Boss replacement.

[el ess A]

I wish "moderate" success for Ford with the GT350, and any other Mustang version. I am a GM die-hard, but without someone to punch GM in the face every now and again to keep the cool cars like Camaro getting better, we'd all be driving jellybeans.

I cannot make myself like the Mustang base or GT's looks, but the Shelby version is much more palatable for some reason.

[Dtowndog420]

This car has replaced the Stingray as my future halo car. I want one and will have one! My mine is set.. That sound oh that sound!! I cannot get enough of it!!

[DevilDawgSS]

Sad thing with this car is the things that really make it a track car are part of an additional package you pay more for. Why introduce a "track car" that isn't ready for the track stock?

I think it's being marketed to the average Joe who wants to have the latest and greatest Ford has to offer. I suspect this car will be purchased in large by people who will never put it on a track.

[72MachOne99GT]

Just like a 1LE, ZL1, or Boss?

I LOVE that I have options. If i had been in the market for a ZL1, I would've been forced to buy a car with extra coolers i don't need, and a fancy suspension setup that wasn't totally necessary for what id be using the car for.