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Old 06-28-2014, 11:29 AM   #43
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It's Camaro5. If you blaspheme against the all holy super rare exotic 5th gen Camaro you get shunned.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:42 AM   #44
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This is why when you modify a car you need to be patient and prepared. Odds are 90% of the time whatever mod you had planned will not go the way you envisioned. You need to be prepared to have to fix and replace ANY part related to any aftermarket part you install. Even simple mods like bolt ons can cause a lot of issues. IMO you needed to be a little more patient than two weeks to figure out the issue. But you know you're going to do what you want anyway.
I think you just really wanted and were ready for something new. It could have cost you $2,000 to get this idle issue you fixed and I KNOW you would have a ton more cash left in your pocket. Between trading in that L99 and getting the SS, it had to have cost you at least $20,000. You could have bought a turbo/supercharger, brought it to a real nice shop, had them install that AND fix whatever was messing up your idle and still been on top a little over 10gs.
Hope this SS works out for you, I would definitely drive one. Just think you rushed into something. And you know, you can get upset with "negative" posts but this is a forum so as long as people offer a reasonable amount of respect they can say whatever their opinion is. If you didn't want to hear our take then...you know...
If you read the thread before commenting, you'd know that this isn't a 2 week issue. This is the third time, same issue and has been on going over a year. I already said this wasn't planned but then you suggest this is what I wanted? That is a blatantly ignorant thing to say.

I've no problem paying to have whatever the issue was, repaired. What I had however was a situation where the problem couldn't be diagnosed by GM techs, rather they nickel and dime me over what they say the problem is, only to have it rear up again. My installer never called me back despite three phone calls. So, keep the car and put up with this, trade it on a new 14 Camaro which I'm not a fan of style wise, or get something compatible.

I'm not a Mustang fan, Challengers are too big and handle like a wet fish. I'm not a MOPAR, FORD or a Caddy guy, I'm a Chevy guy. There was only one option for me. I took it.
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:52 PM   #45
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It's Camaro5. If you blaspheme against the all holy super rare exotic 5th gen Camaro you get shunned.
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Old 06-28-2014, 01:15 PM   #46
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If you read the thread before commenting, you'd know that this isn't a 2 week issue. This is the third time, same issue and has been on going over a year. I already said this wasn't planned but then you suggest this is what I wanted? That is a blatantly ignorant thing to say.

I've no problem paying to have whatever the issue was, repaired. What I had however was a situation where the problem couldn't be diagnosed by GM techs, rather they nickel and dime me over what they say the problem is, only to have it rear up again. My installer never called me back despite three phone calls. So, keep the car and put up with this, trade it on a new 14 Camaro which I'm not a fan of style wise, or get something compatible.

I'm not a Mustang fan, Challengers are too, big handles like a wet fish. I'm not a MOPAR, FORD or a Caddy guy, I'm a Chevy guy. There was only one option for me. I took it.
Glad to see you have no idea what ignorant means. What I said was speculative and a completely reasonable deduction given the information. If you did not want a new car, why did you get one? Why not just get another Camaro? lolol

And you cannot put it on the dealer, they deal overwhelmingly with stock cars. You brought them a modded up car and they did their best to fix it. Your problems may well have to do with those shorties so they are under no obligation to fix anything for you.

Not to mention you're a victim of your own medicine here, calling me ignorant LOL I criticized your actions, not you but instead you felt the need to use language like that towards me. I don't care, just enjoying pointing that out. I understand though as other people attacked you more and put you on the defense.
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Old 06-28-2014, 02:01 PM   #47
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OP nice choice....I have an SS too...nice car.
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Old 06-28-2014, 02:45 PM   #48
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That SS looks pretty damn good IMO. Congrats.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:10 PM   #49
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No negative comments on his new SS. So I cannot say anything.

But as for his choice, it's his.- he already said he'll probably regret it. I get it though. Not sure I'd have got an SS sedan to replace the Camaro, but that's just me. Good luck with the new car. Someone has to buy those things.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:52 PM   #50
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Glad to see you have no idea what ignorant means. What I said was speculative and a completely reasonable deduction given the information. If you did not want a new car, why did you get one? Why not just get another Camaro? lolol

And you cannot put it on the dealer, they deal overwhelmingly with stock cars. You brought them a modded up car and they did their best to fix it. Your problems may well have to do with those shorties so they are under no obligation to fix anything for you.

Not to mention you're a victim of your own medicine here, calling me ignorant LOL I criticized your actions, not you but instead you felt the need to use language like that towards me. I don't care, just enjoying pointing that out. I understand though as other people attacked you more and put you on the defense.
Considering you're now asking why I didn't get a new Camaro when I already addressed it, yes, I feel ignorant is a very appropriate term.

Not to mention that rather than moving on from this thread, you decide you need to retort and "win" the argument. Trying to push my buttons after I let it be known that I don't appreciate button pushers....Yes, I would again say that ignorant fits well.

Since all the facts were readily available there is no need for speculation. Don't want to read all the crap from a year ago? Great, you don't have to, but if you can't be bothered to read it, speculation will be met with a certain degree of annoyance.

I got flak for saying I traded my car and the car I replaced it with. IMHO that would never warrant bashing someone. Enthusiasts respect all cars and car owners. You made assumptions about my position when, if you actually read the thread before jumping in, there might have never been an issue. If you don't understand the difference there, I can't help you.

At any rate, maybe learn the difference between tactfulness and indignant righteousness? Welcome to my ignore list, it's a very exclusive club.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:52 AM   #51
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Performance Impala? Have you read the reviews?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...rive#viewSpecs
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rt_comparison/

Mark Reuss said he would be happy if they sell 3,000/yr (they import 500 at a time). They have sold 1,445 YTD which is right on track for 3,000/yr.
It's a 4 door sedan with a large engine dropped in it (that guzzles some gas). Yes, I'm aware of some of the additional upscales like suspension and interior perks. Performance Impala seems like a very accurate description. (?) Is it not flattering? Is not the Impala the flagship Chevy sedan?

Would I pay an extra ~$5-10k over a comparable Impala with less HP? No. But this obviously fills some sort of market niche, otherwise GM wouldn't have bothered. IMO most buyers of performance will skip this for a Corvette, or save some cash and get a Camaro. Or just look elsehwere (BMW, Lexus, Audi) if they want a performance 4 door.

I actually like the SS sedan but don't like the price or gas mileage. [maybe because they've put it outside of my buying power ] That isn't to say it's overpriced or less efficient than similar cars by other manufacturers, it just doesn't seem to match the price/performance formula that I'd expect them to move many. And as you've confirmed, they're not really going to. 3,000 isn't a lot of cars. I do wish them luck with these and anything that goes 0-60 in 4.5 deserves at least a glance.

Frank - definitely check back in a few more weeks once you've settled in and had some time to open 'er up!

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Old 06-29-2014, 08:31 AM   #52
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Well OP thinks he is Tony Montana.
LOL
Lmao just from the way he has responded to me he seems like he knows he made a bizarre and rushed decision. His $20 + Gs, not mine. I hope my idle starts acting up so I can sell my car and get a nice used Aston Martin Vantage with an extra 20+ gs.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:38 AM   #53
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I hope my idle starts acting up so I can sell my car and get a nice used Aston Martin Vantage with an extra 20+ gs.
Aston Martin, Jaguar, and Maserati have some awesome sedans, even the BMW M4 is a notable choice, imo.
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It's a 4 door sedan with a large engine dropped in it (that guzzles some gas). Yes, I'm aware of some of the additional upscales like suspension and interior perks. Performance Impala seems like a very accurate description. (?) Is it not flattering? Is not the Impala the flagship Chevy sedan?
The Impala (as it is today) is a front wheel drive people hauler. The SS is a Camaro with 4 doors. These two cars are targeted at vastly different buyers.

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Would I pay an extra ~$5-10k over a comparable Impala with less HP? No. But this obviously fills some sort of market niche, otherwise GM wouldn't have bothered. IMO most buyers of performance will skip this for a Corvette, or save some cash and get a Camaro. Or just look elsehwere (BMW, Lexus, Audi) if they want a performance 4 door.
No one is cross-shopping the SS and Impala. If you are looking for a people hauler, it is the Impala. If you are looking for a performance sedan, it is the SS. Neither the Corvette or the Camaro can seat 5 people. Show me a full size sedan from BMW, Lexus, Audi, MB that can compete with the SS for $45,000 or even $60,000?

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I actually like the SS sedan but don't like the price or gas mileage. [maybe because they've put it outside of my buying power ] That isn't to say it's overpriced or less efficient than similar cars by other manufacturers, it just doesn't seem to match the price/performance formula that I'd expect them to move many. And as you've confirmed, they're not really going to. 3,000 isn't a lot of cars. I do wish them luck with these and anything that goes 0-60 in 4.5 deserves at least a glance.
Like I said above, show me anything else that competes with the SS performance for $45,000. Its performance is identical to the Camaro yet its passenger volume is identical to the 300 SRT and Charger SRT.

Camaro SS
Motor Trend: SS 13.1 sec @ 110.8 mph
Car and Driver: SS 13.0 sec @ 111 mph
Road & Track: SS 13.0 sec @ 110.7 mph


SS Sedan
Motor Trend: SS 13.0 sec @ 109.4 mph
Car and Driver: SS 12.9 sec @ 111 mph
Road & Track: SS 12.9 sec @ 110.2 mph

Option a 2SS up to SS sedan standard equipment and the prices are nearly the same. What price to performance ratio would you like to see?

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Old 06-29-2014, 09:43 AM   #55
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Aston Martin, Jaguar, and Maserati have some awesome sedans, even the BMW M4 is a notable choice, imo.
For about $50-60gs you can get a real nice low mileage V8 Vantage and if youre lucky even a DB9! And that's asking price. I'm guessing you could negotiate one into the high 40s if you were lucky enough.
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For about $50-60gs you can get a real nice low mileage V8 Vantage and if youre lucky even a DB9! And that's asking price. I'm guessing you could negotiate one into the high 40s if you were lucky enough.
Any v8 Aston has similar performance to a camaro.

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