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Old 06-02-2008, 09:45 AM   #15
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Challengers are overrated.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:26 AM   #16
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Read the latest MT article....they take the Challenger over the 'Stang....oh, did I mention this was the GT500, not just a GT...

Sure, the 'Stang wins the drag race by tenths of seconds, but they even point out that the Challenger has more weight and less (75 less to be exact) horsepower.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...500/index.html

(Based on all this, I would say that clip in the original post was of a considerably modified GT.)


Final note, yes, when you consider a significant price difference (I would say $6K is significant enough), you would expect the pricier car to be faster. So the GT500 shouldn't beat the overweight, underpowered Challenger by just tenths, right? Plus, you get better MPG and warranty with the Challenger. So, which pony car is overpriced/overrated?
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:32 AM   #17
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Read the latest MT article....they take the Challenger over the 'Stang....oh, did I mention this was the GT500, not just a GT...

Sure, the 'Stang wins the drag race by tenths of seconds, but they even point out that the Challenger has more weight and less (75 less to be exact) horsepower.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...500/index.html

(Based on all this, I would say that clip in the original post was of a considerably modified GT.)


Final note, yes, when you consider a significant price difference (I would say $6K is significant enough), you would expect the pricier car to be faster. So the GT500 shouldn't beat the overweight, underpowered Challenger by just tenths, right?
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:34 AM   #18
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Read the latest MT article....they take the Challenger over the 'Stang....oh, did I mention this was the GT500, not just a GT...

Sure, the 'Stang wins the drag race by tenths of seconds, but they even point out that the Challenger has more weight and less (75 less to be exact) horsepower.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...500/index.html

(Based on all this, I would say that clip in the original post was of a considerably modified GT.)


Final note, yes, when you consider a significant price difference (I would say $6K is significant enough), you would expect the pricier car to be faster. So the GT500 shouldn't beat the overweight, underpowered Challenger by just tenths, right? Plus, you get better MPG and warranty with the Challenger. So, which pony car is overpriced/overrated?
Wait a second, I didn't get any of that from the article you just posted!

I read the article, and the Shelby GT500, pulled a 12.6 @ 114.2 versus the Challenger SRT-8s 13.1 @108.3 mph. On a strip this is a full half second! A half of second faster at the 1/4 mile at speeds of over 100mph is about five car lengths, that is a big deal not just "tenths". Not to mention that out trapping a car by 6 mph on the big end is equally huge.

Furthermore in the handling department, the GT500 out pulled the SRT-8 on the skid pad by 0.2 Gs and out manuevered the SRT-8 in the MT figure eight by half a second and also 0.2 Gs.....that may not seem like much, but remember the GT500 managed to do this on a solid live axle against the SRT-8s supposedly more modern and refined IRS.

As for warranty....the article shows the Challenger with a 3yr/36,000 mile warranty and the GT500 with a 5yr/60,000 mile warranty, though the Challenger does have an unlimited powertrain warranty....

Also the GT500 gets 14/20 mpg vs. the SRT-8s 13/18 mpg, and the GT500 gives off less emissions 1.20lbs of C02/mile vs. 1.31.

It looks to me like you are getting your moneys worth for the GT500 over the Challenger SRT-8 if you go along with this article.

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Old 06-02-2008, 01:28 PM   #19
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i think no matter what you care to point out rock, the only things that can be safely concluded from this clip.


is that the driver of the challenger sucks.

thats it.

he didnt even get off the line till that mustang was 2 lengths ahead of him.
i understand that your a mustang cheerleader, but all things concidered that the only concrete that could be laid.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:40 PM   #20
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Wait a second, I didn't get any of that from the article you just posted!

I read the article, and the Shelby GT500, pulled a 12.6 @ 114.2 versus the Challenger SRT-8s 13.1 @108.3 mph. On a strip this is a full half second! A half of second faster at the 1/4 mile at speeds of over 100mph is about five car lengths, that is a big deal not just "tenths". Not to mention that out trapping a car by 6 mph on the big end is equally huge.

Furthermore in the handling department, the GT500 out pulled the SRT-8 on the skid pad by 0.2 Gs and out manuevered the SRT-8 in the MT figure eight by half a second and also 0.2 Gs.....that may not seem like much, but remember the GT500 managed to do this on a solid live axle against the SRT-8s supposedly more modern and refined IRS.

As for warranty....the article shows the Challenger with a 3yr/36,000 mile warranty and the GT500 with a 5yr/60,000 mile warranty, though the Challenger does have an unlimited powertrain warranty....

Also the GT500 gets 14/20 mpg vs. the SRT-8s 13/18 mpg, and the GT500 gives off less emissions 1.20lbs of C02/mile vs. 1.31.

It looks to me like you are getting your moneys worth for the GT500 over the Challenger SRT-8 if you go along with this article.


My bad on the warranty and mpg...apparently dyslexia can develop at any time....just looking at them backwards....that's what I get for doing this while working at the same time.....I should probably get my priorities straight and dump the workload for awhile so I can write better posts on the forums.

I don't give a damn about the actual times/speeds....yes, you are right, the GT is quicker (I think I said that in my other post), but not "quicker enough". Come on, what, 250lbs less and 75HP more and that's it?

This still relates to the original post....the Challenger is faster than that video shows and we all know a GT is far less of a car than the GT500. There is no way that a stock GT will blow the doors off of a Challenger. Just not going to happen.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:44 AM   #21
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Oh I completely agree that a stock Mustang GT won't touch a Challenger SRT-8, never said it would. But I don't think a Mustang GT driver should be slighted, because he threw in a few grand worth of mods to run with one.

I will stand by what I said earlier though regarding the GT500s acceleration. 0.5 seconds quicker and 6 mph faster in the 1/4 mile is actually a lot....about 75-80 feet in front by the end of the race.

Actually if you think about it, 0.5 seconds and 6 mph is about the margin a Challenger SRT-8 will beat the average stock Mustang GT (13.6 @ 102 mph). I doubt anyone thinks that the Challenger SRT-8 is only a little bit faster than a Mustang GT.

So I guess we will agree to disagree on that point.

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Old 06-06-2008, 01:37 PM   #22
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Heres another vid, the chick driving had never drove a 1/4 before..


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