Biker Brake Checks SUV, SUV Runs Over Bikers - Page 6

Sir Nuke · 10-03-2013, 06:03 PM

being a rider......and the evidence that is at hand, the video that the bikers took, THEY were in the wrong....the ONLY thing that the driver did wrong.....was to get off the freeway.....I would have called back 911, and would never got off the phone until the police surrounded the car.....

canecorso69 · 10-03-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jalberdi99

what would you have done?

What I would have done 20 years ago and what I would do today would be totally opposite. #1 if I have my wife and kids in the car I would not put myself in a situation to begin with. #2 if I were alone or not I wouldnt run bikers off the road cause they were stunting or whatever just because they were impeding my progress. Two wrongs dont make a right. Dont get me wrong now cause I have been in both of these situations but not to where it escalated to this. Hell I get aggravated driving to work everyday because people have no common courtesy or dont know the rules of the road but never in my life have I ever done harm to someone for those reasons even tho I wanted to.

If it was an 80 yr old lady driving 30mph where the speed limit is 75mph the chances of her being ran off the road are slim to none and if she were I guaran..damn..tee ya that person would be charged. Even tho she is breaking the law, she would be issued a traffic citation vs assault with a motor vehicle the other driving would be facing. And yes that is apples to apples because she poses a danger as did the bikers.

I will say this if you gonna act a fool be prepared for others to act a fool with you and against you. If you gonna play be prepared to pay. Sometimes it cost you a beat down....paralyzation or even death. In the end nobody wins.

I think I will take a spin on the Ninja now....by my damn self

2012-1822 · 10-03-2013, 09:10 PM

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This. But since in New York, must carry 5 loaded mags. Remember, only 7 rds allowed

I didn't even think you could have a hand gun in the city, anyway, yeah. Granted it was after he ran over the bikes, but later in the video when they break the driver window there was another guy trying to break the back window where I assume the child was. Someone starts trying to break my car window with a motorcycle helmet, especially if there was a child, I'd use my gun, and if they died as a result I think it's clear self defense.

I ride too, so I'm not picking on people with bikes, but I don't act like that and wouldn't ride with people that do. One problem, and we don't know what happened before the video, is that often a lot of people don't pay attention to motorcycles. And so there could have been some sort of accidental incident that set the whole affair off, we don't know yet.

376LS3 · 10-03-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by canecorso69

. #1 if I have my wife and kids in the car I would not put myself in a situation to begin with. #2 if I were alone or not I wouldnt run bikers off the road cause they were stunting or whatever just because they were impeding my progress. Two wrongs dont make a right.

He didnt run them over because they were acting stupid. He ran them over because they were trying to beat the shit out of him! Im sorry, if you come up to me on a bike with a mob around me trying to kick my ass, I wouldnt think twice about running you over.

Mr_Draco · 10-03-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012-1822

One problem, and we don't know what happened before the video, is that often a lot of people don't pay attention to motorcycles. And so there could have been some sort of accidental incident that set the whole affair off, we don't know yet.

Before this video started, there was over 200 911 calls made about this same gang running people off the road and trying to cause accidents. The SUV driver called 911 3 times before the start of the video because they was attacking his vehicle and trying to forcibly cause him to wreck, the brake check at the start of the video is not what caused the incident. He was on the phone with them a 4th time at the same time the video was being made.

2012-1822 · 10-03-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Before this video started, there was over 200 911 calls made about this same gang running people off the road and trying to cause accidents. The SUV driver called 911 3 times before the start of the video because they was attacking his vehicle and trying to forcibly cause him to wreck, the brake check at the start of the video is not what caused the incident. He was on the phone with them a 4th time at the same time the video was being made.

I was trying to be polite and not generalize, but truth is people on sport bikes tend to ride like a$$holes. So there, I'll be the one to say it.

NYJets77 · 10-04-2013, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by canecorso69

I can tell you prolly what happened and yes...I am assuming here. I am not sure how many of you have ridden in a group of bikes a couple hundred deep but we ride in the group not for the "pack mentality" but because it actually safer...safer for what to be exact. Safer to act a fool which we all have done esp when we were younger and some of us still do. Now my guess is the SUV driver was aggravated that he couldnt pass the bikers and became aggressive. Ive seen it a million times. He prolly made his way in the middle of the group of riders and again I assuming here, and ran a few off the road and at least made them move from their lane. There was something to make the one bike brake check the SUV. We will never know without video evidence.

The SUV driver still may be charged.

All I can say what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I would have done what both the bikers and the SUV driver did depending on which shoes I was wearing. How is that for being PC lol

That's exactly what DIDN'T happen. And with that attitude, you'll be lucky to make it to 40.

NYJets77 · 10-04-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Before this video started, there was over 200 911 calls made about this same gang running people off the road and trying to cause accidents. The SUV driver called 911 3 times before the start of the video because they was attacking his vehicle and trying to forcibly cause him to wreck, the brake check at the start of the video is not what caused the incident. He was on the phone with them a 4th time at the same time the video was being made.

If you watch some of that group's other videos, they clearly show dirt bikes and ATVs on the street, which I'm pretty sure is illegal in NY.

WTH happened to the NYPD? They just give up?

Camero5 · 10-04-2013, 09:06 AM

As usual there is always more to the story. Based on what I've seen and the facts, it's pretty clear that the bikers are in the wrong. I am a younger guy and I've been in groups from 15 to 300 motorcycles at a time and I can tell you we never rode the way they did. We always drove in one lane, one speed, very organize and enjoyed the ride. Whenever I saw bikes riding like this, we knew they were up to no good and avoided them. 9 out of 10 they were always causing problems on the road.

As for this incident, like everyone said, if I had my wife and kids with me and felt my life threatened, you better get the hell out of my way.

Jalberdi99 · 10-04-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by canecorso69

#1 if I have my wife and kids in the car I would not put myself in a situation to begin with. #2 if I were alone or not I wouldnt run bikers off the road cause they were stunting or whatever just because they were impeding my progress. :

#1 what situation? according to the video the guy in the SUV was just driving until the Ahole break checked him. so you are saying that you would get off the highway just to avoid this kind of problems? if you are going to think like that, than don't EVER go outside your house and avoid any danger situation #2 where in the video did the SUV run the bikers off the road? all he did was took off when one guy was trying to open his door after he bump into the motorcycle. his safety was at risk.

Jay_LHD3 · 10-04-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by canecorso69

#1 if I have my wife and kids in the car I would not put myself in a situation to begin with. #2 if I were alone or not I wouldnt run bikers off the road cause they were stunting or whatever just because they were impeding my progress.

+1 Exactly. This was in NYC and of all the millions of people and hundreds of thousands of other vehicles, this was the suv they decided to attack. Obviously he did something to get himself in this situation.

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#1 what situation? according to the video the guy in the SUV was just driving until the Ahole break checked him. so you are saying that you would get off the highway just to avoid this kind of problems? if you are going to think like that, than don't EVER go outside your house and avoid any danger situation #2 where in the video did the SUV run the bikers off the road? all he did was took off when one guy was trying to open his door after he bump into the motorcycle. his safety was at risk.

You seriously think this whole thing was just about the break check?

By the way that was a rhetorical question. As you spun his quote, I was showing how easy it was to put a spin on yours.

Mr_Draco · 10-04-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay_LHD3

Obviously he did something to get himself in this situation.

Yep he sure did, he was going on a date with his wife for their anniversary.

Read the rest of the thread. He did nothing to provoke it and he was not the only driver they attacked. There was over 200 911 calls made about them attacking other drivers in the same fashion before the start of the video. You really think all the other drivers also did something to provoke them into attacking them as well?

Goo · 10-04-2013, 10:18 AM

Anyone else find it odd that with how many GoPros they had on their helmets no one has footage of the RR starting it? I meant if they had wouldn't that clear them?

Jay_LHD3 · 10-04-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Yep he sure did, he was going on a date with his wife for their anniversary.

Read the rest of the thread. He did nothing to provoke it and he was not the only driver they attacked. There was over 200 911 calls made about them attacking other drivers in the same fashion before the start of the video. You really think all the other drivers also did something to provoke them into attacking them as well?

I don't doubt there were hundreds of 911 calls and that is my point. How many other vehicles were surrounded, windows broken out, and the drivers dragged to the ground and beaten.

I agree that these bikers were terrorizing everyone in their path. But whether intentionally or not this suv did something, prior to the brake check hit, to cause them to continually keep the attack focused on him.

To my knowledge neither of us were there. I know I wasn't. So we are both speculating, you that he did nothing to provoke this and myself thinking he did.

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Sir Nuke Master of All Things Drives: '26 Corvette Stingray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas Posts: 22,691 View My Garage	being a rider......and the evidence that is at hand, the video that the bikers took, THEY were in the wrong....the ONLY thing that the driver did wrong.....was to get off the freeway.....I would have called back 911, and would never got off the phone until the police surrounded the car..... __________________

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Camero5 Hide! My wife's coming! Drives: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Las Colinas, TX Posts: 1,442 View My Garage	As usual there is always more to the story. Based on what I've seen and the facts, it's pretty clear that the bikers are in the wrong. I am a younger guy and I've been in groups from 15 to 300 motorcycles at a time and I can tell you we never rode the way they did. We always drove in one lane, one speed, very organize and enjoyed the ride. Whenever I saw bikes riding like this, we knew they were up to no good and avoided them. 9 out of 10 they were always causing problems on the road. As for this incident, like everyone said, if I had my wife and kids with me and felt my life threatened, you better get the hell out of my way. __________________ 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible CRT - 630 RWHP / 620 RWTQ - ADM Performance Built/Tuned - ZL-700 Package - LS9 CAM - Lingenfelter CNC Ported Heads - Stainless Power Headers

10-04-2013, 10:18 AM	#83
Goo Drives: Cayman S Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 822 View My Garage	Anyone else find it odd that with how many GoPros they had on their helmets no one has footage of the RR starting it? I meant if they had wouldn't that clear them?