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Old 09-10-2013, 09:09 PM   #127
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Mad? Oh please. I'm more amused at your lack of intelligence and complete immaturity.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:12 PM   #128
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Well, autoblog is flat out wrong. GM wanted 5k a year. I have no idea where they got the 10-15k at.

There are 4 shipments scheduled for this year. 4 x 900 is 3600.



Again, you need to do some research. The SSV is the top of the line Commodore. It has the much firmer suspension and its completely loaded. I find it funny you tell me to do the research when all you do is piggyback off the other SRT8 cheerleaders. Sure, the cars might match up closish price wise and aside from the 1/4 time, the SRT8 has NOTHING on the SS. It STILL cant match the G8 GXP handling times from 4 years ago.
If you can read. I was the one that brought up the charger. Sorry ! Cool down, you're calling ppl cheerleaders. Dang, soft spot aye!
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:13 PM   #129
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It's basically just a Holden export program. The Australian auto industry isn't exactly in the best shape ever right now (Ford's pulling manufacturing out completely) so if GM can ship Holdens somewhere, they'll do it.

As for marketing, there's a reason it runs in NASCAR.

Options list is short because the car is already pretty well equipped. It's essentially an Impala SS price-wise, size-wise, and performance-wise.

In addition, I think GM simply wants to avoid another G8 fiasco with inventory roasting on dealer lots for months until incentives were slapped on the hood or Pontiac's shutdown was announced. Let's be honest, full size V8 RWD sedans don't exactly sell like hotcakes for any manufacturer. You could stick the LFX in the car which would bring in more volume, but then you'd have two V6-powered full size sedans in the lineup.

GM will sell every SS they build, but it will be a low-volume car. That was the intent from the start.

Also remember it's not the most fuel efficient thing in the world and GM has CAFE constantly lurking over its shoulder.
Atleast your confident. But GM won't sell every SS they make unless your counting rentals, leases, lol. This being low volume will be good for GM to gauge left over stock for other future production years.
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Mad? Oh please. I'm more amused at your lack of intelligence and complete immaturity.
hahaha .. ima be the more mature one and not respond to your ignorance.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:23 PM   #131
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Atleast your confident. But GM won't sell every SS they make unless your counting rentals, leases, lol. This being low volume will be good for GM to gauge left over stock for other future production years.
GM sold over 1800 GXPs in a matter of a month or two when they came over. I dont think GM will have an issue selling 415 SS's a month.
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Oh yes, I'm the ignorant one, says the guy who does nothing but agree with what others say because he really doesn't know anything at all to form his own opinions.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:31 PM   #133
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GM sold over 1800 GXPs in a matter of a month or two when they came over. I dont think GM will have an issue selling 415 SS's a month.
Dang , that's a lot but that would be nice for GM.
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Atleast your confident. But GM won't sell every SS they make unless your counting rentals, leases, lol. This being low volume will be good for GM to gauge left over stock for other future production years.
Careful on that because I believe GM will keep close control on this one. I had read that they wouldn't ship a car that wasn't pre sold. By the nature of the car it should and will be low volume simply due to the price. If you see one in a rental fleet that isn't one of those specialty companies I will be prett well surprised.

You could be correct, but I think GM will control this one pretty tight.
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GM sold over 1800 GXPs in a matter of a month or two when they came over. I dont think GM will have an issue selling 415 SS's a month.
I think 1k a month would be a reasonable estimate. This thing obviously isn't going to sell in Camaro numbers. Especially since supply will be limited by a forever long shipment time.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:34 PM   #136
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Careful on that because I believe GM will keep close control on this one. I had read that they wouldn't ship a car that wasn't pre sold. By the nature of the car it should and will be low volume simply due to the price. If you see one in a rental fleet that isn't one of those specialty companies I will be prett well surprised.

You could be correct, but I think GM will control this one pretty tight.
Things could get interesting. I just don't see them selling the #s some are projecting. Is there even any hype for this car honestly? I haven't heard much about it as of yet. Only time will tell.
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Things could get interesting. I just don't see them selling the #s some are projecting. Is there even any hype for this car honestly? I haven't heard much about it as of yet. Only time will tell.
I haven't either . We'll see soon though.
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GM sold over 1800 GXPs in a matter of a month or two when they came over. I dont think GM will have an issue selling 415 SS's a month.
There is a problem though. When the G8 GXP came out it was something special. Come to 2013, 5 years later, the SS is still running the same drivetrain, same brakes, etc, etc, has lost it's manual, and has a much higher price. The coopetition has moved onward and upward, that is the problem with the SS. It will struggle to sell that, at least after the first couple months.
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Cause they are rated very poor in the problems per 100 car I think they were either bottom or near the bottom and that effects the resale value of the cars. IM not saying they are gonna fall apart and be unreliable you can find some pretty cheap used SRT cars and trucks for sale.
You may want to check you facts, Challengers and Chargers, especially the V8 versions, hold their value EXTREMELY well. Better than 98% of what GM sells........ Also they have both as single models scored extremely well and REAL reliability ratings are always getting better. unfortunatly most of of todays "reliability" ratings are concerned with what customer have an easier time using their car's bluetooth.......
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Well, autoblog is flat out wrong. GM wanted 5k a year. I have no idea where they got the 10-15k at.

There are 4 shipments scheduled for this year. 4 x 900 is 3600.



Again, you need to do some research. The SSV is the top of the line Commodore. It has the much firmer suspension and its completely loaded. I find it funny you tell me to do the research when all you do is piggyback off the other SRT8 cheerleaders. Sure, the cars might match up closish price wise and aside from the 1/4 time, the SRT8 has NOTHING on the SS. It STILL cant match the G8 GXP handling times from 4 years ago.
WRONG! Here are 3 articles, all from Motor Trend. 2009 G8 GXP, 2012 Charger SRT8 and 2012 Superbee.

All 3 were within 1/10th of a g on the skidpad with the Superbee taking the gold, Both Chargers pretty well slaughter the GXP on the Figure 8, the Charger. both chargers stopped shorted from 60 and should have less trouble with fade thanks to the larger 4 wheel brembos vs front only on the GXP/SS, they were quicker in the 1/4 mile with CONSIDERABLY higher trap speeds. Let's be serious here, the SS will not be that improved over the GXP (if at all in acceleration). GXP was fine in 09, though you may want to check out a test Road and track did in 09 putting the 09 SRT8 against the GXP were all performance categories were basically a wash so the CXP really did't even have a numbers advantage then.

Anyways, here are the articles, all from motor Trend

09 GXP: http://www.motortrend.com/pages/sso/...d2f236cpc9xrav

12 Charger SRT8: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ger_srt8_test/

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The Charger's dynamics are the most impressive part. Although its robust powertrain can get you in trouble on entry if you don't plan carefully (advice: brake early), this massive sedan takes to corners with composure, response, and communication that rivals -- perhaps even bests -- some notable German performance sedans. The Charger's steering is very precise, lacking only the tiniest bit of resistance when you reach your intended input. Power slides? Delivered in spades.
2012 Superbee: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ee_first_test/
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