Firearms Section - Page 263

kalimus · 01-11-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin the BlueSS

now at this step you put a full mag in and set the rifle where you can get at it. So it is at the ready you just have to grab the rifle and rack the bolt and its boom time.

on a side note i keep my SW99 the same way since there is no mechanical lock out safety on the gun

So you do this intentionally. It's not that you CAN'T have a mag in with the safety on. Is this right?

Dangeruss · 01-11-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kalimus

Well this is what's confusing. I thought I was crazy, so I tried. I just grabbed my AR, made sure the safety was on, and closed the bolt (brought it all the way forward). Now I have a closed bolt, with a safety on. Then I put a mag in.

Now I have an AR, with a closed bolt, a loaded and installed mag, no round in the chamber, and the safety on. Are you saying you can't have a loaded mag in your gun with the bolt forward and the safety on at the same time?

Yes. You can technically do it either way. If the hammer is back, you can switch to safe. If the hammer is down and the bolt forward you cannot.

My understanding is that it was designed so that a soldier wouldn't pick his rifle up in the fire position, only to dry fire it. It's really a personal preference, and not any less safe.

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Originally Posted by kalimus

So you do this intentionally. It's not that you CAN'T have a mag in with the safety on. Is this right?

Correct.

Dangeruss · 01-11-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin the BlueSS

this way works also. just different options... as an engineer though i look at that as a lot of time with force on the spring since it isn't really necessary... you have to rack the bolt to grab a round anyway.

My thoughts as well. No reason to put tension on the hammer if I'm going to need to charge it anyway.

kalimus · 01-11-2013, 07:10 PM

Alright. Confusion cleared up. I really read that to mean that for some strange reason, your rifles were incapable of having a mag in and being on safe, which would obviously make someone very confused.

driyac · 01-11-2013, 07:30 PM

In Ohio I can't have a loaded magazine if I don't have my concealed carry. It is considered a loaded firearm whether its in my hand or in my trunk.

kalimus · 01-11-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by driyac

In Ohio I can't have a loaded magazine if I don't have my concealed carry. It is considered a loaded firearm whether its in my hand or in my trunk.

We're all talking about in our homes I think. I don't have mine loaded when I take it to the range. Magazines empty, and ammo in a separate storage container than the gun.

driyac · 01-11-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kalimus

We're all talking about in our homes I think. I don't have mine loaded when I take it to the range. Magazines empty, and ammo in a separate storage container than the gun.

Oh I know, but I was just ranting about the bullshit Ohioans have to go through.

CHMSC · 01-11-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by driyac

Oh I know, but I was just ranting about the bullshit Ohioans have to go through.

Try living Cali even more stupid laws you have to abide by.

kalimus · 01-11-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMSC

Try living Cali even more stupid laws you have to abide by.

CHMSC · 01-11-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kalimus

Where are you at in Cali?

kalimus · 01-11-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMSC

Where are you at in Cali?

Spring Valley/La Mesa area

CHMSC · 01-11-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kalimus

Spring Valley/La Mesa area

Ah cool. You going to the meet tomorrow in OS?

Mr Twisty · 01-12-2013, 09:50 AM

Texas Dad poses as gunman to test school security, gets arrested

... Good idea, bad implementation.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...&lite=obinsite

Dangeruss · 01-12-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

Texas Dad poses as gunman to test school security, gets arrested

... Good idea, bad implementation.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...&lite=obinsite

Yea. Good idea, but not the way to go about it.

It's amazing that schools spend all kinds of money and time to make sure our schools are fire proof, including running fire drills, but adding security is somehow paranoid.

We have no problem having armed guards protect our banks, sporting events or public officials, but heaven forbid we use them to protect our children.

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01-11-2013, 07:10 PM	#3672
kalimus Drives: '14 Z51 3LT Stingray and '13 Cruze Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: US of A Posts: 1,346	Alright. Confusion cleared up. I really read that to mean that for some strange reason, your rifles were incapable of having a mag in and being on safe, which would obviously make someone very confused.