Chevy Volt

[derklug]

The Volt is a good first try, and may one day be a good alternative, but it is only a good deal to those with poor math skills.

[DaBears]

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE

the main problem with any hybrid car is this..

if you drive like an ass, there is no savings..

a hybrid, volt, prius, altima, civic, fusion, whatever: only get better mileage in stop and go, low speed short distance drives.. Commuting.

if you are driving 85mph on the highway you are no different than any other 4-banger and you are NOT saving jack, and you ARE polluting as much as any other car..

this is why HOV stickers on a hybrid is plain retarded, they do NOT need to be in the HOV lane buzzing by at 85mph, they are most efficient, and least polluting in the slow lane doing stop and go like everyone else.

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my wife bought a 2007 Camry Hybrid in 2007, and she routinely gets >51 mpg out of it.. 900+ miles per 18 gallon tank..

why? because she drives only streets, always under 40 mph, all stop and go and she keeps the thing on battery as much as possible by slow starting, not idling, and driving it in the manner in which it was designed, for city driving.

She spends $60 on gas about every 6 weeks. I spend that weekly sometimes.. though I can occasionally squeeze 12 days out of a tank..


every hybrid I see on the road is hot rodding it, 20+ over the limit, jack rabbiting from light to light, and driving it like a ass, they are doing nothing to save gas or pollution. and it is these butt turds that moan that their hybrid gets crappy mpg.

I borrowed my friends fusion Hybrid and I'm a lead foot. I drove it 2weeks and even with my lead foot in still got 40mpg city. The new Fusion Hybrid for 2013 can go 63mph on electric only. So being a lead foot, at least with a fusion, matters not.

[huggercamaro21]

Originally Posted by derklug

The Volt is a good first try, and may one day be a good alternative, but it is only a good deal to those with poor math skills.

Have you driven one? I would encourage that you do. We love our volt, and compared the driving dynamics, looks, interior, and attention it has over the cruze and other cars, I think it's not a bad priced car. Sure it's expensive, but all new technology is. Does anyone remember how much the flat screen TVs where when they first came out?
PS: go and drive a volt, I promise you won't be let down.

[newmoon]

While I mentioned above I think that the purchase price on this car is too high, although there are attractive lease rates on the Volt now, $249.00 mo, $1980.00 down, 24-months.

Another option is the Prius discounted to $23,000 0.9% financing, this car gets 51-mpg in the city, more than triple what my Ram sees.

How would a license plate frame saying "My Other Car Is A SRT8 Challenger" look in the back of the above cars

[Stew]

I can't wait for the diesel Cruze to come out

[Bumblebee2012]

Originally Posted by Stew

I can't wait for the diesel Cruze to come out

I traded in my 05 Cummins for the Cruise, my plate moved from the truck to the car.... it says DSL PWRD.



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[Renegade]

Originally Posted by derklug

The Volt is a good first try, and may one day be a good alternative, but it is only a good deal to those with poor math skills.

Or..maybe people who don't want to pay near 5 dollars for gas.

[Bumblebee2012]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Or..maybe people who don't want to pay near 5 dollars for gas.

.....But will spend multiple thousands of dollars with no real thought.....

Someone said earlier, the Volt is for folks that failed math class :-)

..... (My addition) or for folks that will spend money to hug a tree.

The average person in rural America will never be out of the hole with a Volt, I suppose some of the folks that live in a city may have a commute short enough to work, but that's the exception and not the rule. With a car like the Cruze, I can run my 500 miles per two week pay period on a single tank of fuel, fill up for about $50 twice a month, and make my $140 lease payment. In two years, if the diesel is out on the market, I'll jump at that.

Run math on the cost of ownership, I don't know what the lease payment deals are on the Volt currently, but I can also buy out my 1LT/RS Cruze for $17,xxx at the end of the 24 month and 30,000 miles lease, or walk away. My maintenance costs are $0.00 under dealership agreement, and the car gets detailed and waxed/sealed every 6 months until lease end. I make a payment and add fuel now and again. Very low cost to have and use. (Note: I did put $2,000 down to reduce the lease payment)

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[Renegade]

Originally Posted by Bumblebee2012

.....But will spend multiple thousands of dollars with no real thought.....

Someone said earlier, the Volt is for folks that failed math class :-)

..... (My addition) or for folks that will spend money to hug a tree.

The average person in rural America will never be out of the hole with a Volt, I suppose some of the folks that live in a city may have a commute short enough to work, but that's the exception and not the rule. With a car like the Cruze, I can run my 500 miles per two week pay period on a single tank of fuel, fill up for about $50 twice a month, and make my $140 lease payment. In two years, if the diesel is out on the market, I'll jump at that.

Run math on the cost of ownership, I don't know what the lease payment deals are on the Volt currently, but I can also buy out my 1LT/RS Cruze for $17,xxx at the end of the 24 month and 30,000 miles lease, or walk away. My maintenance costs are $0.00 under dealership agreement, and the car gets detailed and waxed/sealed every 6 months until lease end. I make a payment and add fuel now and again. Very low cost to have and use. (Note: I did put $2,000 down to reduce the lease payment)

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Whoever said the Volt is for someone who failed math class isn't the brightest bulb in the room. Unless they were selling the volt for $10,000 or under maybe just "Maybe" i see a better tree hugger

[colingordon]

I don't own a volt and no nothing about it but dosent it take a lot of electricity to charge? So higher electrical bill would compensate for the money not spent on gas? I could completley wrong just throwing the idea out there

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by colingordon

I don't own a volt and no nothing about it but dosent it take a lot of electricity to charge? So higher electrical bill would compensate for the money not spent on gas? I could completley wrong just throwing the idea out there

If you got solar panels your as good as gold.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by colingordon

I don't own a volt and no nothing about it but dosent it take a lot of electricity to charge? So higher electrical bill would compensate for the money not spent on gas? I could completley wrong just throwing the idea out there

Doesn't increase your electric bill much at all.

[Number 3]

Ok, although I have posted that the Volt "can" pay for itself if you have a charging station at work and you drive the max EV range on your commute one way.

But that isn't what the Volt is about. It's about choice. If you want to choose to be in EV mode and NOT use gas you can. For some folks that is important.

It's also about technology. Some people will simply pay a premium for the technology.

You can always pull the MATH out. Heck I can show math that if you buy repeated $500 beaters you can be cheaper in the long run if you simply pick well and drive them until they need some type of repair and then simply abandon the car and buy another $500 beater. It was never about the math.

[20121lt]

that cruze looks great