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Old 07-24-2012, 11:05 AM   #57
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The 5.0 is a damn good motor. Wish I had the $$$ to swap one into my '68 mustang.
my dream is a DOHC 5.0 in a fox bod.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:10 AM   #58
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I wouldn't dare f*ck with an '03/'04 cobra. Even if I was in a ZL1.


Those things are insane. Which is exactly why I want to own one in the future.
I had an 04 and yes they are quick but do not be afraid to run a stock one with a SS. When my 04 was bone stock I did manage one 12:76 pass but most runs were in the high 12s to low 13s. A pulley change, CAI, and tune netted me 450rwhp and low 12 timeslips.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:15 AM   #59
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Should be no bashing as both cars are awesome. The new 5.0 mustang is the best mustang to date for the $$ and the power & tq that little motor puts out is amazing, but both are great right along with the hemi challenger. We all wanted to see the muscle cars come back and they have with a vegeance!

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Old 07-24-2012, 11:23 AM   #60
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I had an 04 Comp Orange Cobra with 493 RWHP. That thing would eat my Shelby alive. Wish I would have kept it. I'm hoping to get over 500 N/A from the SS. By the way I drove one new 5.0 and it felt pretty fast, but I didn't get to beat on it.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:39 AM   #61
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I haven't been a member of this forum very long, but does anyone else find it annoying to have "5.0" owners bashing our cars, I guess we could go around saying that we drive a "6.2", I don't understand why ford is so proud of an engine that produces less torque, the mustang is just lighter plain and simple this is why it can even stay with the ss. STOCK for STOCK
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I don't pay it any mind. 5.0 is a fan boy engine. Nothing as special as people try to make it to be. Only took Ford 10 years to better the tired 4.6 they used between 2001-2010.
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You guys need to learn more about the competition. The Ford's Coyote engine is far more modern and has lots more potential than the same old push rod engine in the Camaros. I wish GM would follow suit and give us a new engine. Not afraid to say it, the 5.0 Mustang is faster than my SS.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:13 PM   #62
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You guys need to learn more about the competition. The Ford's Coyote engine is far more modern and has lots more potential than the same old push rod engine in the Camaros. I wish GM would follow suit and give us a new engine. Not afraid to say it, the 5.0 Mustang is faster than my SS.
I disagree. Although the coyote was designed after the LS3 with more "modern" components take the engines out of both cars and the "ancient" push rod LS3 still takes it

LS3 has higher peak output (426 vs 412 or 420 depending on year).
LS3 is lighter
LS3 makes more power throughout 90-95% of the entire powerband.
LS3 takes up less space
LS3 is capable of roughly the same fuel economy

If you want HP/L then buy a Honda. Or get a V6 camaro, which has a high hp/L as well.

GM is following suit. The GEN V V8 will be released soon. We shall see what that powerplant will bring.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:52 PM   #63
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I haven't been a member of this forum very long, but does anyone else find it annoying to have "5.0" owners bashing our cars, I guess we could go around saying that we drive a "6.2", I don't understand why ford is so proud of an engine that produces less torque, the mustang is just lighter plain and simple this is why it can even stay with the ss. STOCK for STOCK
You butt hurt much bro? I mean jeeze I love the camaro to but calm down. Do you realize that this is the other car discussion section of the forum? Of course people are gonna talk about the camaro's main competitor.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:21 PM   #64
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I disagree. Although the coyote was designed after the LS3 with more "modern" components take the engines out of both cars and the "ancient" push rod LS3 still takes it

LS3 has higher peak output (426 vs 412 or 420 depending on year).
don't forget the 444 hp Boss 5.0
LS3 is lighter
[advantage 1 of pushrod[/b]
LS3 makes more power throughout 90-95% of the entire powerband.
considering it has high peak power it should
LS3 takes up less space
[b] advantage 2 [b/]
LS3 is capable of roughly the same fuel economy
last i checked the LS3 is 2 MPG less on the highway, and the L99 has AFM and still is less than the non AFM 5.0/auto

If you want HP/L then buy a Honda. Or get a V6 camaro, which has a high hp/L as well.

GM is following suit. The GEN V V8 will be released soon. We shall see what that powerplant will bring.

WJust highlighting a few things, also, while HP p/l is not the best indicator, this is still a 1.2 liter SMALLER motor keeping pace, can you imagine a 6.2 with all the 5.0s tech? The gen V SBCs should be pretty nice.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:53 PM   #65
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WJust highlighting a few things, also, while HP p/l is not the best indicator, this is still a 1.2 liter SMALLER motor keeping pace, can you imagine a 6.2 with all the 5.0s tech? The gen V SBCs should be pretty nice.
In that case we should just ecoboost everything. Ford has much smaller displacement ecoboost motors that make the 5.0 look like an antiqued POS because of power output from those smaller motors.

The fuel economy is more due to the heavier camaro and aerodynamics. In 2013 in a stick mustang it's 15 city/26 highway. The LS3 is 16 city/24 highway. In a vette it's 16 city/26 highways.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:02 PM   #66
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I've beat all the 5.0's stock for stock I've come across.. benefits of an auto even with 20 less hp.
so you're saying the automatic shifting actually won, but you won? I don't get it.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:03 PM   #67
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You butt hurt much bro? I mean jeeze I love the camaro to but calm down. Do you realize that this is the other car discussion section of the forum? Of course people are gonna talk about the camaro's main competitor.
You didn't read the fine print. This forum is the
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:16 PM   #68
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I wouldn't call a 5.0 "just a fanboy engine" as some have suggested. They're getting 390tq, 420hp out of 4.951 liters. They have power everywhere in the RPM range, run as smooth as any Lincoln or Cadillac anywhere in the RPM range, and while I know we don't buy cars like these for fuel economy, it is still a bonus to be able to get around 30 MPG from a 400+ hp engine with the cruise set on the interstate, as mine does.

Any objective analysis would lead you to believe that both 5.0 and LS3 engines are outstanding pieces of engineering in their own ways. And guys, both are only getting better. Everyone here knows the Gen Vs are coming soon. And when they do, Ford has left a lot on the table with the current 5.0 as well. Direct injection will soon be coming to both, and surely a few other extra goodies as well. Things are only gonna get better in the next few years, and we all have the competition between the two to thank.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:28 PM   #69
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LOL...it's a waste to discuss it. Some members here have the same attitude about the competition as I did when I was in high-school (yes, high-school). I was quoted as once saying, "You know what happens when a Ford and a Dodge race? Nobody wins."

Then I grew up, and realized that all cars have pros and cons. I can't build them from the ground up, so there is no such thing as my perfect car. Just respect the other guy's preference and move on. We have the best selection of performance cars right now than any other period in history. Buy what pleases you, be proud of it, but don't walk around thinking it's better than anything else out there. It isn't.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:49 PM   #70
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In that case we should just ecoboost everything. Ford has much smaller displacement ecoboost motors that make the 5.0 look like an antiqued POS because of power output from those smaller motors.

The fuel economy is more due to the heavier camaro and aerodynamics. In 2013 in a stick mustang it's 15 city/26 highway. The LS3 is 16 city/24 highway. In a vette it's 16 city/26 highways.
Um, not even a decent comparison, lturbos remember, let's do a turbo 5.0 and see what happens, and oh, the highest HP ecoboost is 360, 60 less than a 13 5.0.......
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