GM's PR Disaster= Volt?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by camaro1

where are you buying your volt at? the dealer here they are $47,000

Well ... I just went to Chevrolet.com/volt:

Starting MSRP: $39,145 + $850 destination

Checking every single option box (which includes 2 car covers) adds around $5,800. So the highest MSRP possible is still less than $45,000. If a dealer is charging $47k ... they're trying to gouge customers.

[its a syn]

Doesn't the Volt come with a $7,000 tax credit or something also?

[upflying]

Originally Posted by Number 3

The crowd that wants to go that same 40 miles and use ZERO gasoline...............and there is a crowd that is an important point

Yes the Volt uses no gasoline for the first 40 miles. That's about a $4 savings in gas if a Cruze uses one gallon during the same first 40 miles.
If you drove a Volt everyday for one year , you would save $1460 in gas annually with the Volt.
It would take 14 years of Volt driving to break even with the extra $20,000 the Volt costs over a Cruze.
Volt economics does not pencil out yet.
If Chevy sold $20,000 Volts, GM would sell a bazillion of them.

[camaro1]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Well ... I just went to Chevrolet.com/volt:

Starting MSRP: $39,145 + $850 destination

Checking every single option box (which includes 2 car covers) adds around $5,800. So the highest MSRP possible is still less than $45,000. If a dealer is charging $47k ... they're trying to gouge customers.

thats is on the sticker on 2 of them on the local lot, $46,xxx plus the dealer paperwork fee of $169

[camaro1]

Originally Posted by upflying

Yes the Volt uses no gasoline for the first 40 miles. That's about a $4 savings in gas if a Cruze uses one gallon during the same first 40 miles.
If you drove a Volt everyday for one year , you would save $1460 in gas annually with the Volt.
It would take 14 years of Volt driving to break even with the extra $20,000 the Volt costs over a Cruze.
Volt economics does not pencil out yet.
If Chevy sold $20,000 Volts, GM would sell a bazillion of them.

plus you have the cost of charging it for 12 hours every night just to get your 30-36 miles of electric use

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by camaro1

thats is on the sticker on 2 of them on the local lot, $46,xxx plus the dealer paperwork fee of $169

Your dealer is an idiot.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Well ... I just went to Chevrolet.com/volt:

Starting MSRP: $39,145 + $850 destination

Checking every single option box (which includes 2 car covers) adds around $5,800. So the highest MSRP possible is still less than $45,000. If a dealer is charging $47k ... they're trying to gouge customers.

I just built one with every option ,but without any dealer installed accessories.

And the price was $46,165.00. Add dealer installed goodies and the price could easily be over 47 grand.

[coolman]

I also found this one on a lot around my town.

[chevydude26]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Who wants a flat screen TV when you can get a CRT TV for $10 at a garage sale?

Who wants an Xbox 360 when you can go outside and kick a rock around?

Weak argument dude...I love you man but nobody is buying the volt.

Economically you will not save because if you wanted that your buy the cruze and get good mpg for half the price. It would take many many years for the volt to finally become a cheaper alternative to the volt.

So you take out saving gas money and your left with a car that isn't a luxury car isnt a performance car and doesn't really look good.

And very few people would make a car purchase based on " saving" the environment.

I understand GM has to have a car to compete with the other green cars and bring down that fuel consumption government number average.

But let's be real and I know you can't cuz you work for the company but be real homie

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by chevydude26

Weak argument dude...I love you man but nobody is buying the volt.

Economically you will not save because if you wanted that your buy the cruze and get good mpg for half the price. It would take many many years for the volt to finally become a cheaper alternative to the volt.

So you take out saving gas money and your left with a car that isn't a luxury car isnt a performance car and doesn't really look good.

And very few people would make a car purchase based on " saving" the environment.

I understand GM has to have a car to compete with the other green cars and bring down that fuel consumption government number average.

But let's be real and I know you can't cuz you work for the company but be real homie

Fen doesn't work for GM. Last I checked, he was a student and has a part time job driving city busses. He is as a moderator on GMInsideNews, but that site is independantly owned and is as free from GM as we are here at Camaro5. Its not like ChevroletVoltage.com which is owned & operated by GM

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by coolman

I also found this one on a lot around my town.

I'm not sure what I missed. But I guess I did miss something. Regardless though ... the main point was that the MSRP on the Volt starts under 40k, which it does

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by chevydude26

Weak argument dude...I love you man but nobody is buying the volt.

Economically you will not save because if you wanted that your buy the cruze and get good mpg for half the price. It would take many many years for the volt to finally become a cheaper alternative to the volt.

So you take out saving gas money and your left with a car that isn't a luxury car isnt a performance car and doesn't really look good.

And very few people would make a car purchase based on " saving" the environment.

I understand GM has to have a car to compete with the other green cars and bring down that fuel consumption government number average.

But let's be real and I know you can't cuz you work for the company but be real homie

Are you incapable of reading this entire thread? I already stated everything you just did. That being said, Volt actually performs fairly well for an EV (something that everyone comments about with their first test drive), is fairly well appointed inside even without options, and looks are completely subjective.

However, the point I am trying to make is this: IF YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, the Volt is your best option, $40k price tag be damned.

I cannot believe how many grown men here are apparently completely incapable of getting that through their heads. Nobody is suggesting that we should all trade in our current cars for Volts. That being said, if you ARE interested in an electric car, which the majority of this site will not be, then you would be best off with a Volt.

By the way, "nobody is buying the Volt" is a ludicrous statement. 6000+ people beg to differ.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm not sure what I missed. But I guess I did miss something. Regardless though ... the main point was that the MSRP on the Volt starts under 40k, which it does

Yeah and out of the 50 that are sitting on lots in my area, none of them are under 40k. That's the same thing BMW and companies like them do. They have cars that they list as starting at one price ,but finding one on a lot at that price almost never happens. Face it, the Volt is not worth it. Chevy cut their own throats by building the Cruze eco. The Volt is just a novelty car for the rich just like corvettes and BMW's.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by coolman

Yeah and out of the 50 that are sitting on lots in my area, none of them are under 40k. That's the same thing BMW and companies like them do. They have cars that they list as starting at one price ,but finding one on a lot at that price almost never happens. Face it, the Volt is not worth it. Chevy cut their own throats by building the Cruze eco. The Volt is just a novelty car for the rich just like corvettes and BMW's.

That's how every new technology starts out. How do you think you're on this forum right now? Some rich people bought these newfangled things called home computers, funding the companies' efforts to make cheaper, more affordable versions.