Jalopnik Tests 2010 GT500

[syr74]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Actually, the new eaton 4 lobes are supposed to be about as efficient as turbos, if not more.

A true twin screw is still more efficient than an Eaton, and even that twin screw isn't as efficient as newer turbos. The newest turbos are untouchable in terms of efficiency.

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Which, unfortunately, is the only thing the GT500 is good for.

Really?

Originally Posted by Autoblog

This is now more than just a muscle car, its A-to-B mountain road pace has just moved up with some of best AWD cars — the GT500 can exploit its all-conquering power just as competently, but with a bit more drama.

And things get better next year with a spreadbore aluminum block which lowers weight and further improves balance. Whats more, there will be more suspension improvements for 2011 to accompany the new engine.

It looks like Ford has adopted the age-old, and too long forgotten, American principal of making the Mustang better every year. To be blunt, this is likely not a strategy GM is currently going to be able to counter effectively, they just don't have the money.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by syr74

A true twin screw is still more efficient than an Eaton, and even that twin screw isn't as efficient as newer turbos. The newest turbos are untouchable in terms of efficiency.

Then doesn't that mean the new Eaton's are more efficient than twin-screw?

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Which, unfortunately, is the only thing the GT500 is good for.

it actually handles great on the track but you would ignore that part wouldnt you. typical.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Then doesn't that mean the new Eaton's are more efficient than twin-screw?

No. The new TVS blowers are very good, but discharge temps and parasitic losses are still higher than with a Lysholm, particularly as boost levels climb. If you plan on keeping boost levels low the TVS presents a compelling, inexpensive alternative to a twin screw or turbochargers. But both a Lysholm twin screw and a turbocharger are going to be more efficient than a TVS if you have the coin.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

it actually handles great on the track but you would ignore that part wouldnt you. typical.

back up your statement with numbers please

[syr74]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

back up your statement with numbers please

Wow, both here and elswhere your posts positively seeth with animosity toward the new GT500. It's as though you lie in wait hoping to find the next opportunity to take a shot at this car. That this car absolutely slays anything with a Challenger badge on it really chaps your arse doesn't it?

[BowtieGuy]

This is now more than just a muscle car, its A-to-B mountain road pace has just moved up with some of best AWD cars — the GT500 can exploit its all-conquering power just as competently, but with a bit more drama.

This is a statement of opinion, not a fact. Numbers, anywhere?

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by syr74

Wow, both here and elswhere your posts positively seeth with animosity toward the new GT500. It's as though you lie in wait hoping to find the next opportunity to take a shot at this car. That this car absolutely slays anything with a Challenger badge on it really chaps your arse doesn't it?

no because it uses a supercharger to get those numbers...so no hurt there...
challenger was always late to the party and the 6.4 in mid 2010 refresh will be slightly late but still enough to put the gt500 to bed.

[ArcAngel]

I doubt that 6.4 will put the gt500 to bed. With the challengers excess weight and horrible lateral G's it won't do anything. The gt500 handles as good if not better than the 2010 mustang Gt those numbers almost 1G of lateral grip are impressive. Unlike the challenger. So just because the 6.4 might arrive ( which I doubt now that the merger is going to go through) and add excess HP doesn't mean it will outhandle or perfo the GT500

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Im impressed with these numbers. I've gone to infineon a few times now, and I can honestly say that track is, on average, .4 / 4 mph slower than the average track. Always facing the wind with the added fact that the track goes slightly uphill the whole way. 12.0's @ 118-119 will probably be where the better drivers get this GT500 to, and a couple will most likely get into the 11's.

[ArcAngel]

^definately concur evil twin

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

I doubt that 6.4 will put the gt500 to bed. With the challengers excess weight and horrible lateral G's it won't do anything. The gt500 handles as good if not better than the 2010 mustang Gt those numbers almost 1G of lateral grip are impressive. Unlike the challenger. So just because the 6.4 might arrive ( which I doubt now that the merger is going to go through) and add excess HP doesn't mean it will outhandle or perfo the GT500

there is alot more going into the car than just a bigger engine....and the weight is very close between both cars........ill just wait till it happens to keep the convo going.

the gt500 is a great car and i never denied that

[ArcAngel]

Just the regular models the mustang is 400lbs lighter than a camaro and camaro is about 500 lighter than the chaly so the difference between mustang and chally is about 800. Even with the few hundred pounds for some of the upgrades to the GT500 the weight between it and the chally are not close

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

Just the regular models the mustang is 400lbs lighter than a camaro and camaro is about 500 lighter than the chaly so the difference between mustang and chally is about 800. Even with the few hundred pounds for some of the upgrades to the GT500 the weight between it and the chally are not close

i dont think you know how much the gt500 weighs , it is a tank just like the challenger

3900+ curb weight