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Old 09-26-2011, 12:37 PM   #1
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Corvette getting new manual!

Looks like the vette is getting a 7-speed. Like most of it's goods we can only hope it'll trickle down to the Camaro.

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Perhaps the manual transmission isn't as dead as a few Italian automakers would like you to believe. Porsche has declared that as long as there is demand it will continue to supply automobiles with do-it-yourself gearboxes, and the German automaker has outfitted its 2012 911 with a seven-speed manual gearbox. Now it seems General Motors is following suit, and the next-generation Chevrolet Corvette will reportedly offer up seven forward gears, as well.

Inside Line has reported that the 2014 Corvette is set to swap in an extra cog for increased fuel efficiency. As a bonus, this move will allow engineers to play with the lower gear ratios thus providing a bit more speed from the lower end.

Now that Porsche has made the leap to a seven-speed manual and Corvette is following suit, could a cackling, wild-eyed locked-in-the-basement transmission engineer be working on an eight-speed unit? We doubt it, but we're already doing heavy shoulder workouts just in case.


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Old 09-26-2011, 12:41 PM   #2
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At some point, it's just too much. I miss my old 4 speed Z28.
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Old 09-26-2011, 03:21 PM   #3
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I don't know. If a 62 speed transmission is what it takes to keep V8's around an mpg's high I'm ok with that.
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Old 09-26-2011, 03:30 PM   #4
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i understand the attraction of a 7 speed for the new Porsches because they have no torque. what does the corvette need it for? they don't need to be geared any shorter than they already are and 6th gear is already ridiculously tall. unless the next gen engines are significantly less torquey (doubtful) i just don't see it.
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Old 09-26-2011, 03:40 PM   #5
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I thought this was common knowledge already. C7 vette gets 7 speed manual and 8 speed auto transmissions.

edit: probably a shorter 6th gear making room for a taller 7th.
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:12 PM   #6
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the auto better be a dual clutch
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:17 PM   #7
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Pretty soon it will be like driving a semi truck. Do they come with a jake brake too? LOL
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:16 PM   #8
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the auto better be a dual clutch
unfortunately no, it will still use a torque converter. it will be used in trucks , cadillacs, next gen camaro etc...
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:17 PM   #9
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A C7 drive train mule was spotted a few days ago. The photographer said it sounded more like a Ferrari than a traditional Vette.

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Old 09-26-2011, 05:34 PM   #10
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I thought this was common knowledge already. C7 vette gets 7 speed manual and 8 speed auto transmissions.

edit: probably a shorter 6th gear making room for a taller 7th.

That I know of there is no "Common knowledge" outside of GM (and they are not talking). Everything is just speculation at this point...





People that are in the know do not usually speak...

"Inside Line has learned that the 2014 C7 Chevrolet Corvette will be available with a seven-speed manual transmission.

Although not confirmed officially by Chevrolet, a source with knowledge of the C7 project confirmed that the upcoming Corvette will offer a seven-speed manual transmission."

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Old 09-26-2011, 05:59 PM   #11
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A C7 drive train mule was spotted a few days ago. The photographer said it sounded more like a Ferrari than a traditional Vette.

The sound would fit with the small displacement V8 we have been hearing about. High winding, small displacement...that would explain the need for the 7th speed. High RPM's and horsepower are replacing torque.
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i understand the attraction of a 7 speed for the new Porsches because they have no torque. what does the corvette need it for? they don't need to be geared any shorter than they already are and 6th gear is already ridiculously tall. unless the next gen engines are significantly less torquey (doubtful) i just don't see it.
7 speeds is starting to be too many, particularly if you have to shift through them all manually. I already skip gears on may car (to save shifting, not because of the skip-shift feature). I hope this isn't foreshadowing future engine choices. If I wanted a torqueless engine that needed granny gears and 8-9K RPM to do anything, I'd have bought a Honda. That is great for race cars, but cars that are driven on public roads need torque much more than they need horsepower.

I've driven many cars with newer, high horsepower V6s. They prove that there is no replacement for displacement. I don't care if it does have 300+ horsepower, if it is constantly bogged down because it as no torque, but is geared as if it does, it is going to "feel" like a 100hp economy car most of the time, regardless of its horsepower rating.

By the way, what is the shift pattern going to look like with 7 forward speeds? 6 gears already fills up the H.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:45 PM   #13
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unfortunately no, it will still use a torque converter. it will be used in trucks , cadillacs, next gen camaro etc...
VW puts dual clutches in their cheaper vehicles why not GM? is there an inherit weak spot in putting a dual clutch in a truck? reliability?
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7 speeds is starting to be too many, particularly if you have to shift through them all manually. I already skip gears on may car (to save shifting, not because of the skip-shift feature). I hope this isn't foreshadowing future engine choices. If I wanted a torqueless engine that needed granny gears and 8-9K RPM to do anything, I'd have bought a Honda. That is great for race cars, but cars that are driven on public roads need torque much more than they need horsepower.

I've driven many cars with newer, high horsepower V6s. They prove that there is no replacement for displacement. I don't care if it does have 300+ horsepower, if it is constantly bogged down because it as no torque, but is geared as if it does, it is going to "feel" like a 100hp economy car most of the time, regardless of its horsepower rating.

By the way, what is the shift pattern going to look like with 7 forward speeds? 6 gears already fills up the H.

I'm thinking they'll do like they did with a 5 speed

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