FEDS INVESTIGATING MUSTANG TRANSMISSION ISSUES - Page 6

coolman · 08-08-2011, 09:57 PM

I don't see the problem with that article at all. All they were saying was that the Camaro and vette transmissions have skip shift. They even said that their's is made by a different supplier which would lead someone to believe that they don't have the same problem as the Ford. Funny thing is though, if you read this forum long enough you'll will see that people are complaining about a similar with the Camaros.

cactuseater · 08-08-2011, 10:10 PM

Totally understood. What the kicker is, is that the complaints not only center around the shifting "problem"....but they actually were not aware that the skip shift was even in their car. Check out the TSB's they have out to "fix" it. All I know is I got a laugh out of it, thought I'd share......

I know what you mean about the 1-4 gig, I have the same deal with my 04 Z06 Vette and got used to over-riding it with RPM. Now, to me, it's natural, I only grabbed the 1-4 gig once since I got the new SS with the manual. Rather than throw in the skip shift modification I just adjust my RPM up a little in first and never get it. In the Vette, I'd get it a lot....but then again these are different animals. It is easier not to get the first to fourth forced shift in my CamSS for sure.

73camarolt · 08-08-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Paul

there are no chinese trannys in this picture

on a serious note, you have to wonder if this is related to the earlier transmission troubles that led to the TSB requiring a change in the fluid type in the Mustang to a lower viscosity fluid.

cactuseater · 08-08-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Paul

there are no chinese trannys in this picture

I actually missed that the first time around....

Blue Maro Demon · 08-09-2011, 01:07 AM

I had heard about a problem with them but this article makes it seem pretty serious for the 2010-2011 Mustangs.http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs...4-5dc97b74c218

cactuseater · 08-09-2011, 01:09 AM

Yeppers. I posted this earlier today and the thread disappeared.

Got my info from Foxnews.com.....

DietCoke · 08-09-2011, 01:14 AM

Mexican built chinese internals junk TR6060. Sounds familiar.

*DGthe3* · 08-09-2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cactuseater

"NHTSA Investigating Complaints About Chinese-made Ford Mustang Transmissions" --- Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/...transmissions/

I love the last paragraph whereby Fox relates that the Chevrolet Corvette and the Camaro SS 6 speed manual trannys both built by a separate supplier function in a similar way. Thus leading the typical reader into thinking this is the same for these aforementioned vehicles as well. Way to go FOX....almost like CNN. What they do not tell you is that they are robust Tremecs made by TTC.

another thread merged ...

v6sonoma · 08-09-2011, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DietCoke

Mexican built chinese internals junk TR6060. Sounds familiar.

Actually they have a chinese built Getrag MT-82.

thePill · 08-09-2011, 02:12 AM

Eliminate skip shift, problem solved. My MT82 came from the factory without skip shift. Could be the reason I don't have any problems.

thePill · 08-09-2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by v6sonoma

Actually they have a chinese built Getrag MT-82.

What he is referring to is the Tremec TR6060 manual transmissions found in the 5th Gen Camaro SS. The internals are built in China and the transmission assembled in Mexico. I watched for months as people bashed the Mustang for a transmission built in China and laughed at the fact that nobody knew the TR6060 was in fact foreign... It is very difficult to find a manual transmission built in the US anymore but there are several automatics (ie Ford Livonia and the GM Hydra Matic). The Camaro V6's automatic transmission is built in Japan but also has internals from China. I believe the MT82's internals are built in Liverpool, England (the Range Rover MT82's are) but are assembled in China.

Edit: The MT82 transmission is produced in the Getrag Ford Halewood plant in Liverpool, UK and assembled in China (somewhere). The main reason most people cannot find information on the transmssion is because most people do not know the actual global name of the Getrag MT82. The transmission is coded 6MT1500 and is one of the most lightweight, compact gearboxes in the world and has an incredible torque capacity rating at a GVWR of almost 10,000lbs.

Here is the actual transmission we have come to know as the MT82, look at what the max torque rating is and what the weight of the vehicle it was recorded at. Lets see Tremec do that...
http://www.getrag.de/en/235

DietCoke · 08-09-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thePill

What he is referring to the Tremec TR6060 manual transmissions found in the 5th Gen Camaro SS. The internals are built in China and the transmission assembled in Mexico. I watched for months as people bashed the Mustang for a transmission built in China and laughed at the fact that nobody knew the TR6060 was in fact foreign... It is very difficult to find a manual transmission built in the US anymore but there are several automatics (ie Ford Livonia and the Hydra Matic). The Camaro V6's automatic transmission is built in Japan but also has internals from China. I believe the MT82's internals are built in Liverpool (the Range Rover MT82's are) but are assembled in China.

REDXIIIDave · 08-09-2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cactuseater

Yeppers. I posted this earlier today and the thread disappeared.

Got my info from Foxnews.com.....

Okay, then

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cactuseater · 08-09-2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by REDXIIIDave

Okay, then

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Nice.

08-09-2011, 01:07 AM	#75
Blue Maro Demon Drives: 2010 AQUA BLUE CAMARO RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,193	Mustang investigated by NHTSA For Gear bOXES I had heard about a problem with them but this article makes it seem pretty serious for the 2010-2011 Mustangs.http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs...4-5dc97b74c218 __________________

08-09-2011, 01:14 AM	#77
DietCoke Slow Turtle Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 1,123	Mexican built chinese internals junk TR6060. Sounds familiar. __________________ LSXOCET - 404rwhp @ 1600 lbs curb weight... bonkers fast https://www.facebook.com/lsxocet

08-08-2011, 09:57 PM	#71
coolman Guest Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 4,812	I don't see the problem with that article at all. All they were saying was that the Camaro and vette transmissions have skip shift. They even said that their's is made by a different supplier which would lead someone to believe that they don't have the same problem as the Ford. Funny thing is though, if you read this forum long enough you'll will see that people are complaining about a similar with the Camaros.

08-08-2011, 10:10 PM	#72
cactuseater Drives: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 856	Totally understood. What the kicker is, is that the complaints not only center around the shifting "problem"....but they actually were not aware that the skip shift was even in their car. Check out the TSB's they have out to "fix" it. All I know is I got a laugh out of it, thought I'd share...... I know what you mean about the 1-4 gig, I have the same deal with my 04 Z06 Vette and got used to over-riding it with RPM. Now, to me, it's natural, I only grabbed the 1-4 gig once since I got the new SS with the manual. Rather than throw in the skip shift modification I just adjust my RPM up a little in first and never get it. In the Vette, I'd get it a lot....but then again these are different animals. It is easier not to get the first to fourth forced shift in my CamSS for sure.

08-09-2011, 01:09 AM	#76
cactuseater Drives: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 856	Yeppers. I posted this earlier today and the thread disappeared. Got my info from Foxnews.com.....

08-09-2011, 02:12 AM	#80
thePill Account Suspended Drives: '11 Mustang GT Premium Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kaiserslauthern, Germany Posts: 1,268	Eliminate skip shift, problem solved. My MT82 came from the factory without skip shift. Could be the reason I don't have any problems.