2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 vs. 2011 Shelby GT350 - Comparison Test

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by Sleestack

Hmmm, at an equal price, most would take the 392 since it is just more beast than the GT or SS. Sounds like you are making up some perceived quality issue to try justify your decision to drive less car....... Don't try so hard.

Percieved quality issue in the form of every dodge owner I know having their car crap out on them at random intervals with no warning even with regular maintenance, most often resulting in very expensive repairs due to the lack of warranty. The dodges don't do well IMO, of course I am but one man on a camaro forum but I've read review after review online of these so called "proffessional car reviewers" stating the same thing. Less car you say? Camaro's are king as far as sales, and sexiness go. Don't believe me? I dare you to check out the numbers posted in these forums. I myself test drove a challenger shortly before purchasing my SS, and less is definetely MORE in this case.

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by Stew

Um, IF you make them comparable, the maximum is like 3k, looks like you fully optioned out the SRT and barely optioned the others, as for the rest of your post, you have NO IDEA! The LX cars are VERY well built and have VERY GOOD reliability, you simply have no clue and are just spouting.

I did make them comparible, all V8 engines with 6 speed transmissions. All with leather, all with premium sound (2ss) and summer tires and wheels. Go see for yourself their chief before you "spout" your nonesense.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by c-dub

Garbage? where is this garbage that you speak of?

Dodge Challenger SRT8 392: Priced to about 46k
Dodge Challenger SRT8: Built on the dodge website for 41k
Chevy 2SS/RS Camaro: Built for 35k
Ford Mustang GT premium: Built for 37k
Ford Mustang Boss302: Built for 42k

Yeah the prices are built for comparable results too, nothin crazy just the RS package and the supposed "track pack" for the mustangs. Still you see that the SRT8 392 is priced way over the comp. If i could get my SS and have 12k left over for mods I'd build something to blow it out of the water. The price difference is key and like I said, it's for something that isn't really relevant anymore.

Products with a better warranty are much better because if it breaks. send it back and it's covered for free. That's why they are better, enjoy paying 46 k for something that's gonna break fataly on you right after the 36 month warranty is out.

fatally!?!?!?! if that happens then you probably wont care about the warranty anymore because you'd be dead

the prices youre using are not for camparably equipped cars. i hope you know that.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by c-dub

Percieved quality issue in the form of every dodge owner I know having their car crap out on them at random intervals with no warning even with regular maintenance, most often resulting in very expensive repairs due to the lack of warranty. The dodges don't do well IMO, of course I am but one man on a camaro forum but I've read review after review online of these so called "proffessional car reviewers" stating the same thing. Less car you say? Camaro's are king as far as sales, and sexiness go. Don't believe me? I dare you to check out the numbers posted in these forums. I myself test drove a challenger shortly before purchasing my SS, and less is definetely MORE in this case.

FUnny, have 2 Dakotas in the Family (one with 180k miles) and a Jeep Patriot (65k miles), 01 Grand Cherokee with 160k and they have definatly never crapped out. Parents also had a 97 Chrysler LHS that had ZERO problems until they wold with around 100k miles (that car is still going with nearly 300k miles on the clock). Not to mention the 96 Cherokee which we had until 190k miles, and sold my ciousin who has 210k miles and it runs better than both his Chevies (2001 Blazer (AC gone already, etc, 60k miles) and 97 Cavalier (just over 100k miles, no ac and I am not even sure it is running right now AND HE IS A HUGE CHEVY GUY!). You are just guessing and going by what you read on the web IMHO and have no friends who's Chryslers have "crapped out". Aren't you the same guy that said you mother's Durangos have all been crap, yet she is on her 3rd one?

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

fatally!?!?!?! if that happens then you probably wont care about the warranty anymore because you'd be dead

the prices youre using are not for camparably equipped cars. i hope you know that.

yes they are, I went on the websites and built them individually. I dare you, just like the other guy to go try it for yourself before you try pulling that card again.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Crowley

...Like I say .. we shouldn't even be arguing !! .. It is a HELL of a great time for us car folks right now !!!

Crowley

its a great time if youre a mustang, camaro or challenger fan i guess but its not like we have the same variety as in the 60's and early 70's

[Stew]

Originally Posted by c-dub

I did make them comparible, all V8 engines with 6 speed transmissions. All with leather, all with premium sound (2ss) and summer tires and wheels. Go see for yourself their chief before you "spout" your nonesense.

But not options for optiion, just a hint though, that is not even possible with an SS because SRT8 comes with a HUGE number of things standard the SS does not even offer.

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by Stew

FUnny, have 2 Dakotas in the Family (one with 180k miles) and a Jeep Patriot (65k miles), 01 Grand Cherokee with 160k and they have definatly never crapped out. Parents also had a 97 Chrysler LHS that had ZERO problems until they wold with around 100k miles (that car is still going with nearly 300k miles on the clock). Not to mention the 96 Cherokee which we had until 190k miles, and sold my ciousin who has 210k miles and it runs better than both his Chevies (2001 Blazer (AC gone already, etc, 60k miles) and 97 Cavalier (just over 100k miles, no ac and I am not even sure it is running right now AND HE IS A HUGE CHEVY GUY!). You are just guessing and going by what you read on the web IMHO and have no friends who's Chryslers have "crapped out". Aren't you the same guy that said you mother's Durangos have all been crap, yet she is on her 3rd one?

My mother has never owned a Durango, you must have me mistaken for another forum member. I suppose I should have stipulated that dodge trucks as far as I know do alright, but the dakota is one of the worst reviewed vehicles since the aztek.

The rest of the cars you mentioned were Jeeps and Crysler...not Dodge, just like Cadillac and Chevy aren't the same entity. Jeeps btw are some of my favorite vehicles actually and all the people I know that have owned them have no complaints. And I don't know anybody with a crysler that isn't a PT cruiser and yeah most of them sit in the driveway due to mechanical issues.

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by Stew

But not options for optiion, just a hint though, that is not even possible with an SS because SRT8 comes with a HUGE number of things standard the SS does not even offer.

Anything that justifies the extreme price difference?

[BigDan]

Come on people isn't it obvious that these magazine's simply place what ever is the latest and greatest performance cars for a comparison test. They have been doing it for years and doesn't always mean its going to be an exact comparison . Its just what ever new car's they have in their stable which are press cars on loan sometime for only a few hours. If they had to wait for next to perfect compros then they would rarely have something to write about. I have a GT500 and it doesn't bother me one bit when they put it in a compro with a AWD GT-R or a ZO6 carbon because its all good in my book since they give its highs and lows and a cool video and magazine about your car to boot. Why do some of you people get so freaking upset when these magazine feature your car? My car's capabilities far out weigh mine so until then I'm the only to blame if it doesn't perform well.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by c-dub

Anything that justifies the extreme price difference?

Depends on your priorities. the lightweight ALCOA SRT specific wheels, pushbutton stoart, proximity entry, available NAV, a bit more but it is time to go home. As for pricing here is a matchup a did a few months ago, i will quuote it here from the other post.

2012 Mustang GT optioned to match the SRT8: 42680 and still doesn't have the keyless entry/start system of the SRT, smaller wheels, and no independant rear suspension.

The True Market Value® (TMV®) price is our exclusive method for calculating what others are paying for a 2012 Ford Mustang Coupe GT Premium in Ivel, KY (based on actual sales data from your region).
True Market Value® Pricing
DescriptionInvoiceMSRPTrue Market Value® Base Price
$30,460$33,045$33,045 3.73 Ratio Limited Slip Axle
$344$395$395 Comfort Group
$518$595$595 Brembo Brake Package
$1,475$1,695$1,695 GT Coupe Accessory Package 1
$627$720$720 Hood & Side Stripes
$344$395$395 Charcoal Black
$0$0$0 Grabber Blue
$0$0$0 All Weather Floor Mats
$74$85$85 HID Headlamps & Security Package
$801$920$920 PowerCode Remote Start System
$300$345$345 Electronics Package
$2,036$2,340$2,340 Shaker 1000 Audio System
$1,127$1,295$1,295 Destination Fee
$850$850$850 Regional Adjustment
$0 Color Adjustment
$0 Total Price
$38,956$42,680$42,680



2011 Mustang GT: 41725, same missing items as above.

$32,845
Brembo Brake Package $1,695
Shaker 1000 Audio System $1,295
HID Headlamps $525
Comfort Group$595
Electronics Package $2,340
Security Package $395
Rapid Spec 401A $395
Hood & Side Stripes $395
3.73 Ratio Limited Slip Axle $395
Destination Fee $850
Total $41,725


2011 SRT8: 45425 with many additional features and a much larger and roomier car.


$42,555
Front 245/45ZR20 and Rear 255/45ZR20 Performance Tires$100
Media Center 430N $1,045
Destination Fee $825
Gas Guzzler Tax $1,000
TOTAL: 45425

4g difference between an 11 GT which you can no longer even order and 3g with a 12. given the extra stuff you get with the SRT8 it is definatly worth the asking price. So is the Mustang. please don't think I am trying to say either one is overpriced as IMHO they are both AMAZING cars and worth the price of addmission. i see the Mustang as a balls to the wall performance machine and the SRT8 as a "cruise" missle. I want to take the Mustang to the twisties and the CHallenger across country.The Camaro is a great car too and maxed out cheaper than both, but there reasons for that as it simply does not offer the available features or quality interior materials of the Mustang or SRT, still a great car though. IMHO all are great cars and all are EASILY worth their prices. Name one car in the 30-45k price range that can give a CHallenger SRT-8, Camaro SS, Mustang GT, or Mustang Boss a run for there money. Easy, they don't exist.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

its not that the dodge is overpriced, because it not. its that it doesnt come in a basic base model with the 392 engine to compete in the lower price ranges that the other two competitors do.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

its a great time if youre a mustang, camaro or challenger fan i guess but its not like we have the same variety as in the 60's and early 70's

Unfortunately that is the world we live in... survival of the fittest killed off a lot of very nice cars.

Crowley

[BigHemiSrt]

My car is a 07 with 67k miles, and was torn down @ around 20k for the cam install. Only thing that I have used my EXTENDED warranty for is broken axles (cammed,stalled,nitrous,and slicks will do that) and a couple blown ps pumps due to donuts...ps pumps are made by mitsubishi not dodge btw...and i promise you there arent very many ppl in this WORLD that puts a car through as much torture as i do.