2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 vs. 2011 Shelby GT350 - Comparison Test

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

corrected for altitude the challenger would run 12.77@111.6 in what looks like really good weather 52 degrees 12%humidity. i wonder what the DA was?

That seems about right. The weather was perfect except for the 2000ft altitude. And 3900lbs aint nuttin compared to 4300!! I think it was 45xxlbs as tested!

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

That seems about right. The weather was perfect except for the 2000ft altitude. And 3900lbs aint nuttin compared to 4300!! I think it was 45xxlbs as tested!

it was 4150lbs vs 4550lbs w driver.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

it was 4150lbs vs 4550lbs w driver.

Thats just sad... piglet vs pig!! Would love to see what these two would run at 3400lbs!! Seems like such a waste of two great engines making damn good power and torque...

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

the difference between these two cars is $38k. the difference between the GT500 and Z06 in the other test was $43,000 and nobody complained when the GT500 got beat.

with that being said the GT350 is overpriced IMO.

I really wanna see the 392 Challenger get a fair crack at a loaded 2SS/RS and 5.0GT and Boss302. Hopefully that happens soon.

Even then the 392 is still priced waaaay above the SS and 5.0. So the whole price difference arguement is still valid. And in regards to My "conspiracy theory" I had not taken into account that they did select the volt as car of the year, I still think they have a huge hard-on for Ford/BMW cars that causes them to be biased.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by c-dub

Even then the 392 is still priced waaaay above the SS and 5.0. So the whole price difference arguement is still valid. And in regards to My "conspiracy theory" I had not taken into account that they did select the volt as car of the year, I still think they have a huge hard-on for Ford/BMW cars that causes them to be biased.

its not priced "waaaay" above a fully loaded 5.0/boss/ or 2ss rs. the srt8 comes pretty much fully loaded stock. plus the car is faster,larger has more trunk space and seats 5 passengers. Its more car so its not like youre paying extra money for nothing. look past the brand.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

its not priced "waaaay" above a fully loaded 5.0/boss/ or 2ss rs. the srt8 comes pretty much fully loaded stock. plus the car is faster,larger has more trunk space and seats 5 passengers. Its more car so its not like youre paying extra money for nothing. look past the brand.

Exactly.

[c-dub]

I remember there was a huge uproar when they compared the RT, GT and SS all together. All the dodge fanboys were up in arms because they didn't test the SRT-8 and R&T even said that they didn't do it because of the huge price difference. I dont know what your definition of WAAAY is in reference to car prices but to me 8-10k difference in price is pretty substantial. Plus their warranty isn't as good as GM's so you're getting all of that bigger trunk, more room, fancy car that will likely break down a few hundred miles down the road. So in my opinion you are paying a whole lotta extra $$$ for the hemi name and some MOPAR fantasies that should stay in the past because the last real MOPAR that was released was in the 70's.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by c-dub

I remember there was a huge uproar when they compared the RT, GT and SS all together. All the dodge fanboys were up in arms because they didn't test the SRT-8 and R&T even said that they didn't do it because of the huge price difference. I dont know what your definition of WAAAY is in reference to car prices but to me 8-10k difference in price is pretty substantial. Plus their warranty isn't as good as GM's so you're getting all of that bigger trunk, more room, fancy car that will likely break down a few hundred miles down the road. So in my opinion you are paying a whole lotta extra $$$ for the hemi name and some MOPAR fantasies that should stay in the past because the last real MOPAR that was released was in the 70's.

do some research before spewing garbage. look at what a fully loaded 5.0/SS come out to, you might be surprised.

and warranties dont always equate to quality products. you can buy a ton of things at autozone that have lifetime warranties but crap out year after year. Im sure gm makes fine engines and they have DO have a great warranty to go along with it (warranties help attract buyers as well) but that doesnt mean an engine with a shorter warranty is not built to similar standards and tolerances.

[c-dub]

Garbage? where is this garbage that you speak of?

Dodge Challenger SRT8 392: Priced to about 46k
Dodge Challenger SRT8: Built on the dodge website for 41k
Chevy 2SS/RS Camaro: Built for 35k
Ford Mustang GT premium: Built for 37k
Ford Mustang Boss302: Built for 42k

Yeah the prices are built for comparable results too, nothin crazy just the RS package and the supposed "track pack" for the mustangs. Still you see that the SRT8 392 is priced way over the comp. If i could get my SS and have 12k left over for mods I'd build something to blow it out of the water. The price difference is key and like I said, it's for something that isn't really relevant anymore.

Products with a better warranty are much better because if it breaks. send it back and it's covered for free. That's why they are better, enjoy paying 46 k for something that's gonna break fataly on you right after the 36 month warranty is out.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by c-dub

I remember there was a huge uproar when they compared the RT, GT and SS all together. All the dodge fanboys were up in arms because they didn't test the SRT-8 and R&T even said that they didn't do it because of the huge price difference. I dont know what your definition of WAAAY is in reference to car prices but to me 8-10k difference in price is pretty substantial. Plus their warranty isn't as good as GM's so you're getting all of that bigger trunk, more room, fancy car that will likely break down a few hundred miles down the road. So in my opinion you are paying a whole lotta extra $$$ for the hemi name and some MOPAR fantasies that should stay in the past because the last real MOPAR that was released was in the 70's.

You are correct .. should be about an 8 - 9k difference from a 2SS/RS (manual).. I mean at that point the options you have are body kits, sunroof, 21 inch wheels etc.. which would drive the price up.

Regardless ... it is a much smaller difference than this comparison or even the Z06/GT500 comparison..

Like I say .. we shouldn't even be arguing !! .. It is a HELL of a great time for us car folks right now !!!

Crowley

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by c-dub

Garbage? where is this garbage that you speak of?

Dodge Challenger SRT8 392: Priced to about 46k
Dodge Challenger SRT8: Built on the dodge website for 41k
Chevy 2SS/RS Camaro: Built for 35k
Ford Mustang GT premium: Built for 37k
Ford Mustang Boss302: Built for 42k

Yeah the prices are built for comparable results too, nothin crazy just the RS package and the supposed "track pack" for the mustangs. Still you see that the SRT8 392 is priced way over the comp. If i could get my SS and have 12k left over for mods I'd build something to blow it out of the water. The price difference is key and like I said, it's for something that isn't really relevant anymore.

Products with a better warranty are much better because if it breaks. send it back and it's covered for free. That's why they are better, enjoy paying 46 k for something that's gonna break fataly on you right after the 36 month warranty is out.

Hmmm, at an equal price, most would take the 392 since it is just more beast than the GT or SS. Sounds like you are making up some perceived quality issue to try justify your decision to drive less car....... Don't try so hard.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by c-dub

I remember there was a huge uproar when they compared the RT, GT and SS all together. All the dodge fanboys were up in arms because they didn't test the SRT-8 and R&T even said that they didn't do it because of the huge price difference. I dont know what your definition of WAAAY is in reference to car prices but to me 8-10k difference in price is pretty substantial. Plus their warranty isn't as good as GM's so you're getting all of that bigger trunk, more room, fancy car that will likely break down a few hundred miles down the road. So in my opinion you are paying a whole lotta extra $$$ for the hemi name and some MOPAR fantasies that should stay in the past because the last real MOPAR that was released was in the 70's.

If you compare a 2SS to an SRT the difference is nowhere NEAR 8010k, also, at that time Chrysler had a lifetime powertrain warranty and they even now match GMs 5 year 100k powertrain warranty (from the commercials I am seeing Ford is starting that now too.)

[c-dub]

Originally Posted by Crowley

You are correct .. sould be about an 8 - 9k difference from a 2SS/RS (manual).. I mean at that point the options you have are body kits, sunroof, 21 inch wheels etc.. which would drive the price up.

Regardless ... it is a much smaller difference than this comparison or even the Z06/GT500 comparison..

Like I say .. we shouldn't even be arguing !! .. It is a HELL of a great time for us car folks right now !!!

Crowley

I agree, lol the cars coming out these days are getting better and better, I need to win the lotto so I can have em all (pokemon?!?)

[Stew]

Originally Posted by c-dub

Garbage? where is this garbage that you speak of?

Dodge Challenger SRT8 392: Priced to about 46k
Dodge Challenger SRT8: Built on the dodge website for 41k
Chevy 2SS/RS Camaro: Built for 35k
Ford Mustang GT premium: Built for 37k
Ford Mustang Boss302: Built for 42k

Yeah the prices are built for comparable results too, nothin crazy just the RS package and the supposed "track pack" for the mustangs. Still you see that the SRT8 392 is priced way over the comp. If i could get my SS and have 12k left over for mods I'd build something to blow it out of the water. The price difference is key and like I said, it's for something that isn't really relevant anymore.

Products with a better warranty are much better because if it breaks. send it back and it's covered for free. That's why they are better, enjoy paying 46 k for something that's gonna break fataly on you right after the 36 month warranty is out.

Um, IF you make them comparable, the maximum is like 3k, looks like you fully optioned out the SRT and barely optioned the others, as for the rest of your post, you have NO IDEA! The LX cars are VERY well built and have VERY GOOD reliability, you simply have no clue and are just spouting.