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Old 01-23-2009, 11:48 AM   #15
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RT-J with Leather, 20s, 6 speed manual and upgraded stereo is 35K. how much would it be now? about 31K? that's not bad

Model edit Sub Total: $31,755
2009 Challenger R/T J Package RWD $31,755
Colors edit Sub Total: $0

Deep Water Blue Pearl Coat Exterior Paint Included
Dark Slate Gray Interior Included
Options edit Sub Total: $2,880
Monotone Paint Included
Leather Seat - Light Slate Gray Insert Included
Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats onlyAvailableInContent
6-Speed Manual Transmission $995
5.7-Liter V8 HEMI(R) VCT Engine Included
245/45VR20 BSW All Season Performance Tires onlyAvailableInContent
20" x 8.0" Aluminum Chrome Clad Wheels $1,350
Sound Group II $535
AM/FM Stereo Radio w/In-Dash 6-Disc CD/DVD/MP3 Plyr onlyAvailableInContent
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle Included
Bright Accelerator, Brake and Clutch Pedals Included
Hill Start Assist Included
Performance Steering w/Variable Displacement Pump Included
Track Pak Included
276-Watt Amplifier Included
Automatic Headlamps Included
Heated Front Seats Included
Luxury Front and Rear Floor Mats Included
Power Heated Fold Away Mirrors Included
Body-Color Exterior Mirrors Included
uconnect studios - Sirius Satellite Radio Included
1-Year SIRIUS Radio Service Included
7 Boston Acoustics Speakers with Subwoofer Included
Goodyear Brand Tires Included
3.92 Axle Ratio with DEC and WP2 20" wheels on R/T Included
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Heavy Duty Brakes Included
Lifetime Powertrain Warranty Included
Destination Charge $725


Net MSRP$35,360
It comes with all the 2SS amenities including Boston Acoustics, nicer leather seats in my opinion and for the same price as the 1SS.. With 0% financing..Not bad at all... We need to get proper pricing on the different models with these new incentives and compare to the Camaro officially.. This will let GM know the competition just got closer and they will have to offer something similar quick or else lose a lot of pre-orders like myself perhaps...And you guys all know I love the Camaro...But saving a boatload of money and getting an equally as nice car in my eyes could be a deciding factor.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:50 AM   #16
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It comes with all the 2SS amenities including Boston Acoustics, nicer leather seats in my opinion and for the same price as the 1SS.. With 0% financing..Not bad at all...
forgot about the Corvette engine did you?
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:57 AM   #17
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forgot about the Corvette engine did you?
Nope, I didn't forget.. There is nothing slow about the fabled HEMI either and I'm not going to be going on a drag strip with it In any case if I was interested in a corvette, I could get a used one cheaper than a new Challenger however that is not what I am interested in..(The vette is a two seater and too small)
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for that price you get a pretty mean car that looks bada-- and is unique. not a bad deal
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:03 PM   #19
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It comes with all the 2SS amenities including Boston Acoustics, nicer leather seats in my opinion and for the same price as the 1SS.. With 0% financing..Not bad at all... We need to get proper pricing on the different models with these new incentives and compare to the Camaro officially.. This will let GM know the competition just got closer and they will have to offer something similar quick or else lose a lot of pre-orders like myself perhaps...And you guys all know I love the Camaro...But saving a boatload of money and getting an equally as nice car in my eyes could be a deciding factor.
i don't think GM can lower the price much more than it already is. they won't break even on these cars unless they sell quite a few of them
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i don't think GM can lower the price much more than it already is. they won't break even on these cars unless they sell quite a few of them



the reason it costs more is because its a higher quality product with better equipment and refinement, not because GM is ripping people off.
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This ought to drive some more folks into Chrysler showrooms...something they desperately need...But I fail to understand the titling...The Challenger didn't get any price cut. The whole brand did...

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Um...Says who? And you think Chryslers gonna make a dime on these deep-discounted cars?
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:39 PM   #22
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nope but i don't think GM is making much if anything off the camaro considering the engines you are getting plus the ground up design and engineering cost. i am pretty sure they needed to sell X number of units at the current prices to break even and i don't think that was a low number. i read that somewhere on here, don't know where
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This does change the game for me...really thinking about this one as my current 2SS configuration will cost about $38k after tax/license etc. I could use an additional $6k off that price for a bad ass car.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:42 PM   #24
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nope but i don't think GM is making much if anything off the camaro considering the engines you are getting plus the ground up design and engineering cost. i am pretty sure they needed to sell X number of units at the current prices to break even and i don't think that was a low number. i read that somewhere on here, don't know where
your thinking of the volt.


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This does change the game for me...really thinking about this one as my current 2SS configuration will cost about $38k after tax/license etc. I could use an additional $6k off that price for a bad ass car.
for some people this will be enough. Just dont worry about getting dusted by V6 Camaro's
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:45 PM   #25
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This does change the game for me...really thinking about this one as my current 2SS configuration will cost about $38k after tax/license etc. I could use an additional $6k off that price for a bad ass car.
Exactly, this is a game changer as well. I am definitely talking this over with my wife as she has yet to go out with me to test drive a challenger. If she likes it and the price is right, then pretty much it is a done deal..

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This ought to drive some more folks into Chrysler showrooms...something they desperately need...But I fail to understand the titling...The Challenger didn't get any price cut. The whole brand did...


Um...Says who? And you think Chryslers gonna make a dime on these deep-discounted cars?

Well, the titling is good in my opinion as the Challenger is one of Camaro's competitors and discounts have been there before for the rest of the vehicles excluding the Challenger so it wouldn't be newsworthy if it still excluded the Challenger. In other words the only reason this is big news is the fact that the Challenger is included in my opinion.. Also, The Dodge Sprinter work van is the only vehicle specifically excluded from the program.

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your thinking of the volt.




for some people this will be enough. Just dont worry about getting dusted by V6 Camaro's

The V6 camaro cannot beat the Challenger RT line.. We really do need to sort this out and figure out exactly what the cheapest price on the Challenger we can get for each model RT and SRT8 and then compare the pricing and specs to what GM is currently offering which we already know in detail.. This information will be useful to all of us interested in American Muscle..
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your thinking of the volt.
For the most part, The Camaro's chassis' development costs are spread across many vehicles based on the same platform. And similar to the VZ chassis underpinnig the GTO, Zeta was designed to be profitable in relatively low production numbers. And every vehicle has that "break even" point, even the Challenger. It take a little while to make up a couple hundred million bucks in development costs.
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RT-J with Leather, 20s, 6 speed manual and upgraded stereo is 35K. how much would it be now? about 31K? that's not bad

Model edit Sub Total: $31,755
2009 Challenger R/T J Package RWD $31,755
Colors edit Sub Total: $0

Deep Water Blue Pearl Coat Exterior Paint Included
Dark Slate Gray Interior Included
Options edit Sub Total: $2,880
Monotone Paint Included
Leather Seat - Light Slate Gray Insert Included
Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats onlyAvailableInContent
6-Speed Manual Transmission $995
5.7-Liter V8 HEMI(R) VCT Engine Included
245/45VR20 BSW All Season Performance Tires onlyAvailableInContent
20" x 8.0" Aluminum Chrome Clad Wheels $1,350
Sound Group II $535
AM/FM Stereo Radio w/In-Dash 6-Disc CD/DVD/MP3 Plyr onlyAvailableInContent
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle Included
Bright Accelerator, Brake and Clutch Pedals Included
Hill Start Assist Included
Performance Steering w/Variable Displacement Pump Included
Track Pak Included
276-Watt Amplifier Included
Automatic Headlamps Included
Heated Front Seats Included
Luxury Front and Rear Floor Mats Included
Power Heated Fold Away Mirrors Included
Body-Color Exterior Mirrors Included
uconnect studios - Sirius Satellite Radio Included
1-Year SIRIUS Radio Service Included
7 Boston Acoustics Speakers with Subwoofer Included
Goodyear Brand Tires Included
3.92 Axle Ratio with DEC and WP2 20" wheels on R/T Included
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Heavy Duty Brakes Included
Lifetime Powertrain Warranty Included
Destination Charge $725


Net MSRP$35,360
Is this with or with out the gas guzzler tax?
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Exactly, this is a game changer as well. I am definitely talking this over with my wife as she has yet to go out with me to test drive a challenger. If she likes it and the price is right, then pretty much it is a done deal..




Well, the titling is good in my opinion as the Challenger is one of Camaro's competitors and discounts have been there before for the rest of the vehicles excluding the Challenger so it wouldn't be newsworthy if it still excluded the Challenger. In other words the only reason this is big news is the fact that the Challenger is included in my opinion..




The V6 camaro cannot beat the Challenger RT line.. We really do need to sort this out and figure out exactly what the cheapest price on the Challenger we can get for each model RT and SRT8 and then compare the pricing and specs to what GM is currently offering which we already know in detail.. This information will be useful to all of us interested in American Muscle..

i agree it would be good information to know.

However, the 300hp 3700lb Camaro should be able to keep up with the 370hp 4100lb Challenger.


pretty sad for the 10k price difference.
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