GM Reveals 2012 Buick LaCrosse with eAssist: 37 MPG Highway - Page 3

truth411 · 11-16-2010, 07:59 PM

Now that I think about it, this would make a great base powertrain for the ATS but it would need more power.

Edit: the batteries only wiegh 65lbs, and its in the back and low to the ground, thats exactly where you want weight to be if you have to add it on a RWD Front engine sedan, the boost in Fuel economy is absolutely worth it.

*DGthe3* · 11-16-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by truth411

Now that I think about it, this would make a great base powertrain for the ATS but it would need more power.

Maybe, maybe not. The ATS is supposed to be a small midsize car right? If so, they could could get it to be 200 lbs lighter than the LaCrosse (large midsize/fullsize) without much issue. Without that added weight, and the boost from the eAssist, it could be very capable as a base engine for the small Cadillac.

FenwickHockey65 · 11-16-2010, 08:11 PM

ATS is reportedly getting a brand-new 2.5L I-4.

truth411 · 11-16-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Maybe, maybe not. The ATS is supposed to be a small midsize car right? If so, they could could get it to be 200 lbs lighter than the LaCrosse (large midsize/fullsize) without much issue. Without that added weight, and the boost from the eAssist, it could be very capable as a base engine for the small Cadillac.

No one would buy a cadillac with under 200hp, especialy considering the competition.

truth411 · 11-16-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

ATS is reportedly getting a brand-new 2.5L I-4.

Cool.

*DGthe3* · 11-16-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by truth411

No one would buy a cadillac with under 200hp, especialy considering the competition.

You mean the competition that's considering the use of 4 cylinder engines in their smaller cars?

FenwickHockey65 · 11-16-2010, 09:09 PM

From what I'm hearing, the new 2.5L in the ATS will easily clear 200 HP.

King Sun · 11-17-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

From what I'm hearing, the new 2.5L in the ATS will easily clear 200 HP.

same as the old the old 3.8's in the grand prix's. that would be cool.

FenwickHockey65 · 11-18-2010, 01:18 AM

And for anyone still doubting the "around $30k" pricetag, this is NOT a base CX model with a new powertrain. The exterior is more or less CXL-spec, and it would appear as though a touchscreen display is now standard inside the car, along with a revamped color LCD screen where the standard DIC once was. Plus, it seems as though the old steel wheels w/ wheel covers have been replaced by standard alloys.

truth411 · 11-18-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

You mean the competition that's considering the use of 4 cylinder engines in their smaller cars?

That doesn't mean they will have under 200hp, they will probaly add F.I.
IMO the ATS with a powertrain like this but with 50 more HP would be a great base model if they can keep the wieght in check.

Stew · 11-18-2010, 06:17 PM

I am not much of a fan of the Lacrosse or Taurus (sans SHO) so i will Digress, but this drivetrain in a Cruze would kick ass. Ya know, i wouldn't be surprised to see this find it's way into the baby Cruze based Buick (I believe they are making that, right?), it would be a great way to differentiate the 2. It hold the title of most powerful Cruze AND best MPG. Let's see where this goes from here.

FenwickHockey65 · 11-18-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

I am not much of a fan of the Lacrosse or Taurus (sans SHO) so i will Digress, but this drivetrain in a Cruze would kick ass. Ya know, i wouldn't be surprised to see this find it's way into the baby Cruze based Buick (I believe they are making that, right?), it would be a great way to differentiate the 2. It hold the title of most powerful Cruze AND best MPG. Let's see where this goes from here.

Verano is Astra-based, not Cruze-based.

And eAssist is reportedly very flexible, capable of being applied to small cars and SUVs. Regal and EpII Malibu will get it, might crack 40 MPG.

Stew · 11-18-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Verano is Astra-based, not Cruze-based.

And eAssist is reportedly very flexible, capable of being applied to small cars and SUVs. Regal and EpII Malibu will get it, might crack 40 MPG.

Ah, gotcha, still think it would be a great premium addition to buicks small car

11-16-2010, 08:11 PM	#31
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	ATS is reportedly getting a brand-new 2.5L I-4. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

11-16-2010, 09:09 PM	#35
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	From what I'm hearing, the new 2.5L in the ATS will easily clear 200 HP. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

11-18-2010, 01:18 AM	#37
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	And for anyone still doubting the "around $30k" pricetag, this is NOT a base CX model with a new powertrain. The exterior is more or less CXL-spec, and it would appear as though a touchscreen display is now standard inside the car, along with a revamped color LCD screen where the standard DIC once was. Plus, it seems as though the old steel wheels w/ wheel covers have been replaced by standard alloys. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

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11-16-2010, 07:59 PM	#29
truth411 Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, tx Posts: 1,301	Now that I think about it, this would make a great base powertrain for the ATS but it would need more power. Edit: the batteries only wiegh 65lbs, and its in the back and low to the ground, thats exactly where you want weight to be if you have to add it on a RWD Front engine sedan, the boost in Fuel economy is absolutely worth it.

11-18-2010, 06:17 PM	#39
Stew Drives: 92 Luminadead/01 Dakota/97 F150 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern, Ky Posts: 3,789	I am not much of a fan of the Lacrosse or Taurus (sans SHO) so i will Digress, but this drivetrain in a Cruze would kick ass. Ya know, i wouldn't be surprised to see this find it's way into the baby Cruze based Buick (I believe they are making that, right?), it would be a great way to differentiate the 2. It hold the title of most powerful Cruze AND best MPG. Let's see where this goes from here.