Chrysler says it wont repay gov't loans of taxpayer money

[ViperTomcat]

My comments in bold

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

The challengers fat! The weight difference between the L99 SS and the R/T is ony about 175 pounds
The charger's a pigmobile. That sells 10,000 units a month and is dominating the police market..how is GM and Ford doing in the police sales?...oh wait..
The chrysler 300c is played out like ruffles on tuxes. And is being completely refreshed for 2011 and was the most awarded new car in history.
The town and country is boring. Minivans are meant for safety and hauling kids, not excitement.
I can't think of any other models and I don't want to know any...Keep your head in the sand.

Chrysler sucks... they will always suck Except the fact that their sales are trending upwards and their overall qualities scores are going up. Since 1978, they just have the occasional hit, like creating the minivan market, the Viper in the early 90's,the PT Cruiser in 2000, the 300 in 2004, the Charger in 2005, the Challenger in 2008. They are mostly unreliable and the cars don't last more than 120,000 miles, except for my 99 Dodge Durango that was still going strong at 143,000 miles and my friends 03 Cummins Turbo Diesel truck at 189,000 miles . Chrysler is the joke of america what the hell is GM then?
Ford and GM over the last 6 years have been putting out more desireable vehicles. That didnt keep GM from needing tens of billions of dollars of bailouts and being majority owned by the US government

If it were up to me? I would have let them sink from the get go. Yes, because you lack the business and economic sense that a Goldfish has.

Shall I continue? Chrysler has had quite a few hits in the 90's and 2000's. Are all hits? no.

[v6sonoma]

Umm this thread is like from a year ago?

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

Umm this thread is like from a year ago?

I know. OverZealous was too busy breathing through his mouth and panting himself into a frenzy that he failed to notice it was from December.

[v6sonoma]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

I know. OverZealous was too busy breathing through his mouth and panting himself into a frenzy that he failed to notice it was from December.

I guess he was a little over zealous! lol Good name choice!

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

My comments in bold




Shall I continue? Chrysler has had quite a few hits in the 90's and 2000's. Are all hits? no.

Hey hey now. My 13 year old goldfish is offended.

[alrox]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS
The weight difference between the L99 SS and the R/T is ony about 175 pounds.

Both cars are overweight and poorly designed from the start. They both chose a 'form over function' design and didn't care that the cost effective platform to reach those looks was a bad performance choice. They only cared what the car looked like in order to get the lust sales.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

That sells 10,000 units a month and is dominating the police market..how is GM and Ford doing in the police sales?...oh wait..

Ford dominated all police sales for years with the Crown Victoria. How were Chrysler's police sales then?...oh wait..
It is anyones guess as to which of the 3 police cars they will choose in the future. Cost is a big deterrent in them picking the Charger for widespread use.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

And is being completely refreshed for 2011 and was the most awarded new car in history.

Refreshed into the same thing. It is rental car fodder along with the Charger and most other Chrysler products.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

The town and country is boring. Minivans are meant for safety and hauling kids, not excitement.

True.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Keep your head in the sand.

You dismiss all of Chrysler's faults and look at them from the mind of an owner-enthusiast. Chrysler overall is on its deathbed even after the bailout. They have not changed their thinking or product line enough to warrant a revival. Future sales will be poor, Fiat will bail on their partnership and they will be liquidated.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Except the fact that their sales are trending upwards and their overall qualities scores are going up.

Sales are flat and an unhealthy portion of sales are fleet sales. They are still far below industry average in quality.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

except for my 99 Dodge Durango that was still going strong at 143,000 miles and my friends 03 Cummins Turbo Diesel truck at 189,000 miles . Chrysler is the joke of america what the hell is GM then?

Your personal experience means nothing. It is a fact that Chrysler products are more unreliable than industry average. Comparing them an unrelated entity(in this case, GM) is a typical red herring deflection move when you have no factual ground to stand on.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

That didnt keep GM from needing tens of billions of dollars of bailouts and being majority owned by the US government.

Yes. GM should have been liquidated as well. Even after the legally questionable bailouts, GM has a better chance at survival than Chrysler does.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Yes, because you lack the business and economic sense that a Goldfish has.

Survival of the fittest. Chrysler and GM are still far from fit. They deserve to be in whatever hole they dug.


TLDR - Chrysler makes poor products and doesn't deserve to be in business anymore.

[bigearl]

Yay, Alrox chimed in!

TLDR is right. I'm sure it was reasonable and fairminded as always though.

[Xanthos]

Holy necro-thread, batman!
- X

[The_Blur]

Be nice, everyone. If this dead thread is going to come back, then we're going to have to be reasonable, friendly, and, most importantly, respectful.

[MSG']

wow old thread is right lol

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by MSG'

wow old thread is right lol

Old thread and apparently "old thinking". Reading some of those things made me want to blow the dust off my screen.....