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*Camaro_Corvette* · 09-07-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mrray13

Good choice! Although I'd grab the extra mags, you can never have too many, I think you'll be plenty happy with the M&P!

We qualify with a bit at 25yds, everything else is under, all the way to 3yds. Most shootings happen under 25yds, I think it is 7yds, that is why training happens in that range. For just target shooting, and some of the new handguns available. 150-200yds isn't out of the question at all. For self defense, 25yds is stretching it.

Did you take out a new life insurance policy??

Yes.

mrray13 · 09-07-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Yes.

LOL...be afraid, be very, very afraid!!

nards444 · 09-11-2010, 03:03 AM

after having to use and carry an M4 around for the last four years I dont know why everybody wants one, I dont know if its the idea of it or what. you are better off buying an AK and modding it or getting an AR-15 in like 7.62. 5.56 is worthless and in the civilian world you can't hunt with it either

v6sonoma · 09-11-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Sadly enough it is.

It's about as bad as NC's castle law. You can shoot a burglar if they are unarmed BUT they have to be outside the house and you can not have seen them yet. Once they enter the house you can not shoot them unless the person actually tries to attack you or a family member.

Shoot them in the head, plant a knife on them, and say they attacked you.

If they are stupid enough to break in they better be ready to die.

Lawdog1911 · 09-11-2010, 06:17 PM

I just got back from the Saxet Gun Show in Conroe, Texas. I got there at 11 and just got home @5. Of course I left for a lunch break, then went back, haha. I could spend a fortune there! Going back tomorrow, if not, then next weekend @ Reliant in Houston.

Capthowdy · 09-11-2010, 06:31 PM

I carry a Colt defender 90 .45 with crimson trace grip laser....And a MOSSBERG pistol grip 12 gauge for the home protection kit....

mrray13 · 09-12-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nards444

after having to use and carry an M4 around for the last four years I dont know why everybody wants one, I dont know if its the idea of it or what. you are better off buying an AK and modding it or getting an AR-15 in like 7.62. 5.56 is worthless and in the civilian world you can't hunt with it either

Because, up close, in police work, a 7.62 is just too much liability. Less chance of a 5.56 punching all the way through into someone else. Not that it can't happen, just less of a chance.

Also, now there are so many piston driven, or piston/impingement hybrids out, an AK is really outclassed IMHO. When compared, unmodified, the AR platform is more accurate (better sights), just as reliable (if maintained) and much more ergonomic. Of course, if all you need to do is spray as much lead as possible as fast as possible, and do it for cheap, then an AK still rules!

Mr_Draco · 09-12-2010, 07:26 PM

Does anyone here know where to find reloaders for a decent price?

I'm looking for a .223 reloader. I've found a Lee Pro for $160 plus shipping but I don't know if this is a good price or not. I also need a good place to buy brass and bullets at a decent price.

VASCAR2 · 09-13-2010, 12:22 AM

Personally I never liked Lee reloading products including the dies. Its hard to beat RCBS and Dillon. Dillon has an excellent warranty and RCBS is almost as good. I have an RCBS rock chucker single stage press that is as good as the day I bought it and its built like a tank. Palmetto State Armory has really good prices on bullets and brass but I don't know if they carry reloading equipment. Midway USA sells reloading equipment and has pretty good quantity in stock but is basically retail prices. I'd also recommend checking out Dillon's they have a wide variety of products.

Mr_Draco · 09-13-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VASCAR2

Personally I never liked Lee reloading products including the dies. Its hard to beat RCBS and Dillon. Dillon has an excellent warranty and RCBS is almost as good. I have an RCBS rock chucker single stage press that is as good as the day I bought it and its built like a tank. Palmetto State Armory has really good prices on bullets and brass but I don't know if they carry reloading equipment. Midway USA sells reloading equipment and has pretty good quantity in stock but is basically retail prices. I'd also recommend checking out Dillon's they have a wide variety of products.

Dillions are great but they are WAY out of my price range.

I'll look into RCBS and the Palmetto State Armory. Midway USA is where I found the Lee Pro and a vast assortment of brass and bullets.

mrray13 · 09-13-2010, 11:30 AM

I've got a Lee single stage, and it's old, and works great! All I've ever reloaded were .44 mags, but each one was a good one, lol!!

I need to get back into reloading, make things a bit cheaper!!

Mr_Draco · 09-13-2010, 12:25 PM

Reloading isn't that much cheaper. Adding up the prices I can reload a box of 20 .223 ammo for about $8 but can't come no where near the prices of the cheap brands such as Wolf and Brown Bear.

My dad sold all of his reloading equipment some time ago (which is why I'm buying a .223 for a christmas present) and he still talks about how he could reload a box for half the price you could buy.

Scrappy Doo · 09-13-2010, 05:56 PM

Okay, I just put a 150 rounds through my new gen 4 glock 22. There is signifcantly less recoil than the previous gen 3's. I shot my gen 3 22C for a mag, then my gen 4 22 for a mag, etc.

The gen 4 grip is a couple mm thinner than the gen 3, but I don't have any of the backstraps on. (You get 2 additional backstraps with the gen 4.)

The recoil is significantly less than my gen 3 22c. Granted the gen 4 is new and my gen 3 has seen 8000 plus rounds, But still it is no contest, the gen 4 is awesome.

Cleaning and disassmbly are the same, with the gen 4 spring being a just a tad picky with how the recoil spring goes back in.

Accuracy is standard Glock, ie: it's perfect. No malfunctions, and it goes bang everytime you want it to.

SO: If you have a gen 3 or older glock, get yourself a gen 4. Plain and simple.

As a side note, I picked up a new KIMBER today too. LOL.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 09-13-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VASCAR2

Personally I never liked Lee reloading products including the dies. Its hard to beat RCBS and Dillon. Dillon has an excellent warranty and RCBS is almost as good. I have an RCBS rock chucker single stage press that is as good as the day I bought it and its built like a tank. Palmetto State Armory has really good prices on bullets and brass but I don't know if they carry reloading equipment. Midway USA sells reloading equipment and has pretty good quantity in stock but is basically retail prices. I'd also recommend checking out Dillon's they have a wide variety of products.

I haven't been impressed with Lee either. It looks like i'm going to stick with RCBS for a long time. Have not used a Dillon.

09-11-2010, 03:03 AM	#325
nards444 Drives: 1SS/RS Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: New york Posts: 2,123 View My Garage	after having to use and carry an M4 around for the last four years I dont know why everybody wants one, I dont know if its the idea of it or what. you are better off buying an AK and modding it or getting an AR-15 in like 7.62. 5.56 is worthless and in the civilian world you can't hunt with it either __________________ 2010 1SS/RS Black, CGM stripes, polished Rims, Tinted windows, Hurst shifter

09-11-2010, 06:31 PM	#328
Capthowdy Drives: 2010 2SS RS IOM Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fl Posts: 1,048	I carry a Colt defender 90 .45 with crimson trace grip laser....And a MOSSBERG pistol grip 12 gauge for the home protection kit.... __________________ THE "MENACE"

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Lawdog1911 ZL1 Dreamin Drives: 1967 Camaro, 2010 2SS (RIP) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cut N Shoot Texas Posts: 532	I just got back from the Saxet Gun Show in Conroe, Texas. I got there at 11 and just got home @5. Of course I left for a lunch break, then went back, haha. I could spend a fortune there! Going back tomorrow, if not, then next weekend @ Reliant in Houston.

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Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 7,344	Does anyone here know where to find reloaders for a decent price? I'm looking for a .223 reloader. I've found a Lee Pro for $160 plus shipping but I don't know if this is a good price or not. I also need a good place to buy brass and bullets at a decent price.

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VASCAR2 Drives: 94 Camaro, 10 1LT IBM Camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Illinos Posts: 232	Personally I never liked Lee reloading products including the dies. Its hard to beat RCBS and Dillon. Dillon has an excellent warranty and RCBS is almost as good. I have an RCBS rock chucker single stage press that is as good as the day I bought it and its built like a tank. Palmetto State Armory has really good prices on bullets and brass but I don't know if they carry reloading equipment. Midway USA sells reloading equipment and has pretty good quantity in stock but is basically retail prices. I'd also recommend checking out Dillon's they have a wide variety of products.

09-13-2010, 11:30 AM	#333
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	I've got a Lee single stage, and it's old, and works great! All I've ever reloaded were .44 mags, but each one was a good one, lol!! I need to get back into reloading, make things a bit cheaper!!

09-13-2010, 12:25 PM	#334
Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 7,344	Reloading isn't that much cheaper. Adding up the prices I can reload a box of 20 .223 ammo for about $8 but can't come no where near the prices of the cheap brands such as Wolf and Brown Bear. My dad sold all of his reloading equipment some time ago (which is why I'm buying a .223 for a christmas present) and he still talks about how he could reload a box for half the price you could buy.

09-13-2010, 05:56 PM	#335
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,731	Okay, I just put a 150 rounds through my new gen 4 glock 22. There is signifcantly less recoil than the previous gen 3's. I shot my gen 3 22C for a mag, then my gen 4 22 for a mag, etc. The gen 4 grip is a couple mm thinner than the gen 3, but I don't have any of the backstraps on. (You get 2 additional backstraps with the gen 4.) The recoil is significantly less than my gen 3 22c. Granted the gen 4 is new and my gen 3 has seen 8000 plus rounds, But still it is no contest, the gen 4 is awesome. Cleaning and disassmbly are the same, with the gen 4 spring being a just a tad picky with how the recoil spring goes back in. Accuracy is standard Glock, ie: it's perfect. No malfunctions, and it goes bang everytime you want it to. SO: If you have a gen 3 or older glock, get yourself a gen 4. Plain and simple. As a side note, I picked up a new KIMBER today too. LOL.