Excited about a V6?

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by Conflict

I prefer V6 most of the time since the gas mileage, I don't need a a daily driver super car

Since when does anyone need anything but something that serves as basic transportation?

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

I disagree.... case in point

I said:

Originally Posted by garagelogic

a naturally-aspirated V6...

[zebra]

i used to be one of them "if it ain't a V8, it ain't nothin" guys, but after i grew up a little & learned more about cars, i realized that it all depends on whet you want the car for. if you plan on racing or performance driving, you're much better off spending the extra money on the V8, but if all you care about is having a hot-looking car that's got some relative get-up-and-go, the V6 should be a perfectly viable option, especially for the people on a tighter budget. V6 technology has advanced so much over the past few years and can be given a little more

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by shank0668

who the h gave those estimates? fbodfather said it will get best in class fuel economy. Also v8 better gas mileage in the city than the v6?

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf

I had to guess at the city estimates, since there is no data that I have seen printed that gives us that information. I screwed up and transposed the V6/V8 data, I guess. Nice catch and thanks for the correction.

[FenwickHockey65]

Insurance is less with a V6.

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Insurance is less with a V6.

I wonder why?

[TheClassicCarKid]

You of all people should have some respect for F.I. so what's wrong with buying a V6 car, installing a turbo/s.c. and making it faster than its eight cylinder model? It's cheaper and just as fun.

As for being excited? Why not be excited that technology has improved so much that a V6 is making more horsepower than Mustang GT's of the past...and present.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

I wonder why?

Well for some people, that's an important factor, especially younger drivers.

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

You of all people should have some respect for F.I. so what's wrong with buying a V6 car, installing a turbo/s.c. and making it faster than its eight cylinder model? It's cheaper and just as fun.

As for being excited? Why not be excited that technology has improved so much that a V6 is making more horsepower than Mustang GT's of the past...and present.

It may seem cheaper, but that is generally not the case. Yes, you can use forced-induction to up the hp/tq on the V6 and make a respectable performer out of it. In some cases, an impressive performer. However, by the time you upgrade the suspension, drivetrain, brakes, etc. to support the new power levels, you could have just bought the V8 version of the car in the first place. I don't know about you, but having 400+rwhp and single piston front and rear brakes and a weaker transmission is not something I'd want to be leaning on too often or too much.

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

But that's just it, in the past, there used to be significant fuel-savings between the V6 and V8 versions. That is simply just not the case anymore. I mean, look at these examples:

2010 V8 Camaro: 16 city/23 highway (estimated)
2010 V6 Camaro: 17 city/27 highway (estimated)

2010 V8 Mustang: 16 city/24 highway
2010 V6 Mustang: 17 city/26 highway


If you are that concerned about fuel economy, why are you even looking at a pony/muscle car to begin with?

because people want to buy something with character,style not a plain.boring economy car

if there was not v6 offered on the Maro,chally or stang there would be no muscle cars at all today

v6 sales make up a lot of sales for muscles/pony cars

[Moose]

I was giving this some thought before answering;

I think the term "muscle car" will mean different things to different people.

When I think "muscle car", I think GTO, BB Chevelle's, Camaro's, Nova's, and Vette's, 428 & 429 Mustangs, Hemi 'Cuda's, etc., etc..

I've heard SB Camaro's, Mustangs, and Mopars called both "muscle cars" and "pony cars".

So I think its a matter of "personal perception."

Todays young generation is just as fanatic about their V6's and 4 cylinder cars as we are about our "muscle cars".

Therefore, I think there's alot to be excited about when it comes to the V6 Camaro. The V6 in the Camaro offers very impressive performance.

For those among us who are younger, and have grown up driving V6 and 4 cylinder cars, which they often modify to increase performance, the V6 Camaro offers the same, if not more, performance, at a price most can afford.

I'm not sure that I'd refer to the V6 Camaro as a "muscle car", but I will tell you that I'm VERY excited about it. And if it is referred to as a "muscle car", I have no problem with that.

After all, when you look at early "muscle cars", the bottom line is, while appearing as "sleepers" from the outside, underneath, they offered a high level of performance. I think the V6 Camaro fills that bill nicely.

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

because people want to buy something with character,style not a plain.boring economy car

if there was not v6 offered on the Maro,chally or stang there would be no muscle cars at all today

v6 sales make up a lot of sales for muscles/pony cars

I agree 100% and never questioned the role the V6 cars play in providing the bulk of the income that allows the manufacturers to provide us with the more spirited versions of the model. I'll just never understand how anyone can get so excited about getting one.

Again, my comments were not directed at any one car or company. I just made an observation on how much things have changed in just the last 10-15 years and wonder how we got to that point as performance enthusiasts. I laugh when I hear folks talk about how good/powerful the exhaust note on a 4 or 6 cylinder sounds. If that kind of thing floats your boat, so be it. I'm just stating an opinion. I don't intend to nor do I expect for your opinion to change as a result of anything I have said.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

I said:

you said.... and I quote...

Originally Posted by garagelogic

All valid points, but in my opinion, buying a V6 version of a pony/musclecar is akin to kissing your sister. It doesn't matter how good-looking she is, it's still wrong.

Originally Posted by garagelogic

I wonder why?

not because of the motor size thats for sure. insurance is cheaper due to the lesser options than the 1ss and 2ss versions. there's a thread already going explaining that ins companies are caring less about engine size and more about the bells and whistles

[garagelogic]

I'm a little confused. Exactly what are you referencing with that quote? If it's in regards to how I feel about V6-powered pony/musclecars, I still stand by that statement. If you are referencing the Grand National, last time I checked, the Buick Regal was not considered a V6 version of a musclecar or a ponycar. Nice try though. Work on it a little more and get back with me.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by Moose

...When I think "muscle car", I think GTO, BB Chevelle's, Camaro's, Nova's, and Vette's, 428 & 429 Mustangs, Hemi 'Cuda's, etc., etc.. same here, but i also respect what those cars have become today (for the most part)

For those among us who are younger, and have grown up driving V6 and 4 cylinder cars, which they often modify to increase performance, the V6 Camaro offers the same, if not more, performance, at a price most can afford. i gotta say that, even being one of the younger guys, until recently, i've always had some sort of V8, and even though i appreciate what the V6 cars can do now, i wouldn't call it a muscle car without a V8

I'm not sure that I'd refer to the V6 Camaro as a "muscle car", but I will tell you that I'm VERY excited about it. same here, but it's more of an excitement for the average joe who will be buying it just to have a nice car

Originally Posted by garagelogic

I laugh when I hear folks talk about how good/powerful the exhaust note on a 4 or 6 cylinder sounds.

i believe they're saying how good it sounds compared to other 4/6 cylinder models. i don't think any muscle car enthusiast will even put a V6 sound on par with a V8 (especially if that V8 is a pushrod engine)