Toyota planted false NHTSA info

[a_Username]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-t...htsa-info.html

Seemingly disproving a prior report, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration head David Strickland has revealed that no conclusion has been made in the Toyota unintended acceleration case and that “several more months of work” are needed to complete the investigation.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday that the NHTSA had linked complaints against Toyota for unintended acceleration to driver error, but Strickland revealed to the Detroit Free Press that no such conclusion has been reached.

When asked if the NHTSA had come to a conclusion on the Toyota case, Strickland replied: “None whatsoever.” He added: “We are in process, internally and with NASA, and we have several more months to go.”

Although the source of the WSJ report remains a bit of a mystery, at least one NHTSA official believes Toyota is behind the erroneous information. “That story was planted by Toyota,” an NHTSA spokeswoman in Washington told just-auto. “Toyota is the source – yes we know that for definite.”

The spokeswoman continued: “It is [the] Toyota PR machine. We knew they were going to put it out.”

Toyota has yet to comment on the situation.

UH-OH! If the spokeswoman is proven true with time, then I expect Toyota to be in big trouble with the fed.

[ViperTomcat]

Pin them to the wall and make Toyota pay. Their "shining time" in the sun must end.

[lil_chef]

they are both reports based off of anonymous sources.... ill wait for official word

[bigearl]

The Left Lane News article is not true and was poorly researched:

'"US finds no fault in Toyota throttles"

"However, Daniel Smith, an associate administrator at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said on June 30 that “despite several investigations of Toyota’s electronic throttle control system, NHTSA has not been able to find a defect”."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/55e42f88-8...tml?ftcamp=rss


Here <<<is the powerpoint for the presentation, and this is the meeting outline: http://www.trb.org/main/uastudy.aspx

Daniel Smith's title is:

Mr. Daniel C. Smith
Associate Administrator for Enforcement
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Recall Management Division (NVS-215)
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE – Room W45-306
Washington, DC 20590 '



They have not reached a final conclusion and that final conclusion isn't until next summer. However the WSJ article is completely accurate. He's not a plant and the agenda of the meeting and talking points are public record.

[toesuf94]

I knew that was way too fast and too far fetched to believe...NAIL THEM TO THE WALL and while we are at it: STOP THEM FROM SELLING ALL CARS IN THE U.S. UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED AS A PENALTY FOR LYING!

Yes, I know that will put Americans out of work right now, but come on - these things are not only endangering the people driving them, but those of us on the road with them!
Can you imagine getting broadsidded by the out of control Lexus at 100+ MPH because the brakes are on fire and unable to stop the car at full throttle? It could happen...it did for Mark Saylor and his family, as well as the owner of the Explorer they hit on the way off the highway. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...-56629472.html

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by bigearl

The Left Lane News article is not true and was poorly researched:

'"US finds no fault in Toyota throttles"

"However, Daniel Smith, an associate administrator at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said on June 30 that “despite several investigations of Toyota’s electronic throttle control system, NHTSA has not been able to find a defect”."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/55e42f88-8...tml?ftcamp=rss


Here <<<is the powerpoint for the presentation, and this is the meeting outline: http://www.trb.org/main/uastudy.aspx

Daniel Smith's title is:

Mr. Daniel C. Smith
Associate Administrator for Enforcement
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Recall Management Division (NVS-215)
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE – Room W45-306
Washington, DC 20590 '



They have not reached a final conclusion and that final conclusion isn't until next summer. However the WSJ article is completely accurate. He's not a plant and the agenda of the meeting and talking points are public record.

You're citing a article that's nearly two weeks older than my own, and that's the type of article that my own has "debunked." The source of WSJ is being questioned, considering that NTHSA is supposed to not have released any information to Toyota just yet. (2)

It seems that other, i.e. not specifically these Toyota reports, sudden acceleration complaints have been typically driver error. Also, as you've said, the investigations are still not done meaning some problem related to the mechanics/electronics of the vehicles may be discovered before then. The report saying that "NHTSA has not been able to find a defect," is a result of the already done investigations and not the ones to come. (1)

Regarding the comments by the spokesperson, it seems that Toyota is getting inside information from a certain NHTSA employee. NHTSA commented saying that "The WSJ report was news to us." (2)

So far, it definitely seems this was a marketing attempt by Toyota to save some face.

(1)- http://www.freep.com/article/2010071...no-conclusions

(2)- http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/15/r...ted-by-toyota/

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Pin them to the wall and make Toyota pay. Their "shining time" in the sun must end.

It is up to the consumer on rather or not Toyota pays.

[fielderLS3]

Not sure if I believe this. For the most part, this issue had blown over. Why would Toyota do anything to bring this issue back to the public's attention, even if it supposedly exonerated them?

Toyota screwed up bad enough with the pedal issue to begin with. If this does turn out to be true, that would be epic. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Dirty, dirty, dirty....I hope this is true. As sad as it is to WISH for corruption and dirty dealings, they got off WAY too easy for what happened. This could, as others have said, pin them to the wall.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Unfortunately even if it is true, gov't won't do squat. It will have to come from the buying public to make them pay.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Unfortunately even if it is true, gov't won't do squat. It will have to come from the buying public to make them pay.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Unfortunately even if it is true, gov't won't do squat. It will have to come from the buying public to make them pay.

Originally Posted by a_Username

Which is why more truthful charges against them are needed. They've brainwashed consumers and it's going to take a lot to undo that damage.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Which is why more truthful charges against them are needed. They've brainwashed consumers and it's going to take a lot to undo that damage.

Toyota is only using the laws that the government has implemented to protect themselves. Ironically, the laws are supposed to protect the consumer, but the supposed criminal is in fact being protected.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Toyota is only using the laws that the government has implemented to protect themselves. Ironically, the laws are supposed to protect the consumer, but the supposed criminal is in fact being protected.

I don't doubt it, but could you be more specific?

[Captain Awesome]

We should make this a starting point for ridding the country of all this corruption from the top to the bottom and everywhere in between. No more lobbies, no more earmarks, no more quid pro quo, none of it!