The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by wbt

Not at all what I have read.

You don't want to shift at the peak power if you are drag racing.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by wbt

Sigh....

Do the math. If you think I am overestimating then show it. Offer something constructive otherwise go post on the Mustang forums. I am sure they would love to have your "insight".

This will be my last post on the subject. I laid it out for everyone to see. Choose what you may with it.

you wanted something "constructive" well there you have it. Notice the trap speeds. Not saying you dont gain MPH's, just not as much as youre wishing it does.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

I hope you don't really think a stock ls3 in a camaro with 4.30 gears could trap 119. You're just comparing how many rpm the engine is spinning at a given speed with given gearing. You are giving zero consideration to power. There is no way in hell a 3850 lb car with 375rwhp is going to trap 119. In a perfect world, if both cars could possibly have "perfect" gearing per unit weight, the mustang will be faster. It's simple physics.

thats what i've been trying to tell him.I really wonder what his reply would be. Its his opinion vs. my evidence.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

I seriously doubt you gain 5 mph with the gear change also.

I didn't come close to gaining 5mph when I went from 3.08 gear to 4.10 in my old fox body.

I also didnt gain any trap speed, just ET when going from 3.27 to 3.73 in my 4th gen Camaro.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I also didnt gain any trap speed, just ET when going from 3.27 to 3.73 in my 4th gen Camaro.

Yes my gains were in the ET mostly. I think I picked up 1 mph on the best runs with the 4.10 being the only new mod at the time.

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Apparently the 2011 GT wakes up a lot when you raise the rev limiter and allow it to shift at even just 7krpm.

Being able to shift back into the power band is far more important than the car making peak power at 6.5k-6.6k rpm.

+10000000000000000

[assasinator]

shifting at 7200-7500 is what my car needs bad. i'd take that one tuning mod if i could get it. im waiting for more tuning results before i buy. as these cars get the rev limit raised ET's are gonna drop sharply.

[Russell James]

I drove an '11 5.0 today. Pretty impressive for only 5 liters. Down low very unimpressive, but in about the top 3rd of the RPM range it really hits hard.

I still prefer the way the LS3 builds power early. Much more predictable power. Driving the Mustang around, my first impression was this thing is a dog... that's all there is... then once when really opening it up and keeping my foot all the way in it, holy smokes this thing rips hard on the top end. So you really have to push it hard to really feel the ponies. As opposed to an LS motor that just feels strong all the time. Really don't need to floor it and hold it floored to feel the tq.

I predict many 5.0s to be into the curbs or ditches during test drives if someone turns the traction control off. They get squirly quick once the power builds.

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by Russell James

I drove an '11 5.0 today. Pretty impressive for only 5 liters. Down low very unimpressive, but in about the top 3rd of the RPM range it really hits hard.

I still prefer the way the LS3 builds power early. Much more predictable power. Driving the Mustang around, my first impression was this thing is a dog... that's all there is... then once when really opening it up and keeping my foot all the way in it, holy smokes this thing rips hard on the top end. So you really have to push it hard to really feel the ponies. As opposed to an LS motor that just feels strong all the time. Really don't need to floor it and hold it floored to feel the tq.

i can believe this. its a high winding small displacement motor. the LS3 has a 74ci advantage, and that advantage is that nice, flat torque curve that feels so good.

but me personally, ive always like that top end charge...i find it easier to get the car moving aggresively without lighting up the tires.

[MADBOWTIE]

Originally Posted by KungFuHamster

s197forum.com

And the mustang guys say we are bad. Check out that forums Kill area and come back and tell me that the camaro guys talk worse about mustangs.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by MADBOWTIE

And the mustang guys say we are bad. Check out that forums Kill area and come back and tell me that the camaro guys talk worse about mustangs.

To be fair, they do call out on their own kind, unlike most people here.

[assasinator]

there is going to be more 5.0's in the ditch or tree than you might think. its a high revving racelike motor. the average driver is not prepared for the power/gearing combo. turn traction and stability off= wrecks.

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

Originally Posted by assasinator

there is going to be more 5.0's in the ditch or tree than you might think. its a high revving racelike motor. the average driver is not prepared for the power/gearing combo. turn traction and stability off= wrecks.

i don't think thats necessarily true........a motor that builds power more progressively would seem to be much more predictable than an LS motor where you stomp on it midcorner and it really socks it to you. The mustang is live rear axle (albeit a fantastic one) and has a ridiculously low first gear and I think those would make it more dangerous to any high schooler lucky to get his hands on one, than the actual powerband and torque curve of the engine.


personally..........ive kind of had enough of an engine that doesn't make any serious power below 4k but rips at the track........im ready for a big thundering 6.2L pushrod that'll really scoot under moderate throttle, low rpm situations that are present in daily driving.

[Indy2010]

Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle4.6GT

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personally..........ive kind of had enough of an engine that doesn't make any serious power below 4k but rips at the track........im ready for a big thundering 6.2L pushrod that'll really scoot under moderate throttle, low rpm situations that are present in daily driving.

Now you're starting to see the light. Come on over, lol.