The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[SuperSnake]

and that GT will give you guys a good run in trap speed cause its also faster in passing and the rolling starts not to mention 0-100

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by SuperSnake

faster in passing and the rolling starts not to mention 0-100

Wait what? The SS is almost 2 seconds faster than the GT in 0-100..

SS 0-100: 10.74

GT 0-100: 12.7

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Wait what? The SS is almost 2 seconds faster than the GT in 0-100..

SS 0-100: 10.74

GT 0-100: 12.7

According to the slowest test of the GT ever.

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

from what i've seen, the average time for the 5.0 (including pro tests and noobs posting online) seems to be 12.8.

for the Camaro, it seems to be 12.9.

trap speeds (excluding that freakish 116 thats highly debateable mustang: 111
Camaro: 110.5

[2SSARMY]

Oh didn't think we were talking about the 5.0, was going off 05-10GTs.

My bad.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

I REALLY doubt that the 115 MPH trap is correct. However, maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

The numbers don't really add up as I understand it (see NHRA Stockers post). Some posters on the Mustang forums agree.

As I said, the Motorweek test was with a manual convertible, so it makes no sense when talking about this automatic hardtop's trap.

Well considering the mustang weighs almost the same across the board and the 5.0 is exactly the same despite transmissions, if one can do it, it's likely the other can also. Like I said, I'm not convinced either way, but mike's trap corrects to about 115, motorweek claims a 116 and this guy trapped 115 (not saying it's legit, but it did happen). Seems like a lot of coincidences.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle4.6GT

from what i've seen, the average time for the 5.0 (including pro tests and noobs posting online) seems to be 12.8.

for the Camaro, it seems to be 12.9.

trap speeds (excluding that freakish 116 thats highly debateable mustang: 111
Camaro: 110.5

I honestly have not seen a regular person post their times yet for the 5.0. Every time I've seen has been from a performance shop.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Well considering the mustang weighs almost the same across the board and the 5.0 is exactly the same despite transmissions, if one can do it, it's likely the other can also. Like I said, I'm not convinced either way, but mike's trap corrects to about 115, motorweek claims a 116 and this guy trapped 115 (not saying it's legit, but it did happen). Seems like a lot of coincidences.

You really believe that somehow Motorweek trapped 4-6 MPH higher than everyone else and it wasn't an error? I think that'd be a really big power difference between card, no?

I am sure there are SS traps that correct higher than a SS has ever trapped, so I'd prefer to use numbers that have actually been accomplished versus corrected traps.

I REALLY, REALLY doubt it, but maybe I'm wrong. That Vendicated guy says he is taking his car to a different track this week so we'll see.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Oh didn't think we were talking about the 5.0, was going off 05-10GTs.

My bad.

Oh, no wonder lol.

[8cd03gro]

I'm just saying we are taking from a very small sample here and nothing is impossible. We have only seen like 4 production GT's (3?) run the actual 1/4. Powerhouse trapped just under 113 with a DA around 1,000 ft. I'm not at all saying that proves that 116 is legit or even 115, but it does leave room for improvement and I highly doubt we have seen the best possible traps or ET's from the 5.0 yet.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by assasinator

the rods ARE NOT the same as previous modulars. they are far stronger. they are cracked forged. forging them makes the far stronger. the 450rwhp limit stuff is low for the coyote.

I never said the rods were the same only that I thought that they were just as weak by what I read. I am going off of my 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords magazine March 2010 issue. I will throw in some word for word quotes to help you out. "Like current Mustang GT rods, Coyote connecting rods are forged from powdered metal. Optimized for reduced weight and redesigned for uniform bearings loads around the big end, the Coyote rod eliminates the 4.6 rod's balance pad. These rods are plenty strong for stock rpm and power but will not survive forced induction". End quote. here is another one. "Too bad the connecting rod isn't as over-built," (as in the rest of the motor is very stout) Here is another one to pay close attention to. "The Coyote team says the forged powdered-metal connecting rod is the least robust link in the 5.0 chain. Engineers noted it is absolutely strong enough for its naturally aspirated application in the Mustang, but just absolutely strong enough. Most ominously, supercharging will require a stronger forged rod, so we expect to see those, and , no doubt, a short block in the FRPP catalog before long." In no doubt the rods are improved upon but from an in depth look at the motor from these guys says that they will not hold up to much past stock #'s for long. Is it possible? sure. Will it happen? most certainly. However for all those making FI power on the stock shortblock there will be countless others that break. There are in fact 800rwhp stock shortblock LS motors but your talking about 1 out of like 10,000. Same will go and does go for the modular.

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I never said the rods were the same only that I thought that they were just as weak by what I read. I am going off of my 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords magazine March 2010 issue. I will throw in some word for word quotes to help you out. "Like current Mustang GT rods, Coyote connecting rods are forged from powdered metal. Optimized for reduced weight and redesigned for uniform bearings loads around the big end, the Coyote rod eliminates the 4.6 rod's balance pad. These rods are plenty strong for stock rpm and power but will not survive forced induction". End quote. here is another one. "Too bad the connecting rod isn't as over-built," (as in the rest of the motor is very stout) Here is another one to pay close attention to. "The Coyote team says the forged powdered-metal connecting rod is the least robust link in the 5.0 chain. Engineers noted it is absolutely strong enough for its naturally aspirated application in the Mustang, but just absolutely strong enough. Most ominously, supercharging will require a stronger forged rod, so we expect to see those, and , no doubt, a short block in the FRPP catalog before long." In no doubt the rods are improved upon but from an in depth look at the motor from these guys says that they will not hold up to much past stock #'s for long. Is it possible? sure. Will it happen? most certainly. However for all those making FI power on the stock shortblock there will be countless others that break. There are in fact 800rwhp stock shortblock LS motors but your talking about 1 out of like 10,000. Same will go and does go for the modular.

correct...i have a feeling that with the new 5.0 supercharging/turbocharging is going to go down in popularity and nitrous will make a comeback. i mean who wants to spend all that $ for a blower only to run 5 psi (with an intercooler)...everyone knows nitrous loves compression and its cheaper, so i think just like you LSx guys the 5.0 mod motor guys will be spraying a lot.

and there are pics of the new 5.0 rod out...its definitely improved, but still not something id feel too comfortable with making big power.

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Most mustang guys on here are cool. The losers get weeded out pretty much and banned.

You seem to be going towards the ban side.

so disagreeing with a post/calling BS will get me banned?

[96CAMaro]