The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Inferno2SS]

Originally Posted by Unfair

just saw this

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Evolut...2950647?ref=mf

Modified they ran a 12.49 it says. Looks like stock they are seeing what Edmunds reported.

Evolution Performance, Inc. We drove our 2011 Kona Blue Mustang GT Premium 5.0L 4V (5.0 Magazine and Super Fords Project Car) with HID's, Comfort Package, Security Package, 3.73 Gears, Brembo Brake Package, 19" Wheels with Street Tires and drove it 70 miles from the dealer straight to the track! We went 13.2 @ 110mph with a 2.10 60ft with no burn...out or cool down.

[Brownhornitt]

Can't we all just get along...?

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by Inferno2SS

Modified they ran a 12.49 it says. Looks like stock they are seeing what Edmunds reported.

Evolution Performance, Inc. We drove our 2011 Kona Blue Mustang GT Premium 5.0L 4V (5.0 Magazine and Super Fords Project Car) with HID's, Comfort Package, Security Package, 3.73 Gears, Brembo Brake Package, 19" Wheels with Street Tires and drove it 70 miles from the dealer straight to the track! We went 13.2 @ 110mph with a 2.10 60ft with no burn...out or cool down.

Yea trying to see what they added, because that is a big diff from 13.2.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Inferno2SS

Modified they ran a 12.49 it says. Looks like stock they are seeing what Edmunds reported.

Evolution Performance, Inc. We drove our 2011 Kona Blue Mustang GT Premium 5.0L 4V (5.0 Magazine and Super Fords Project Car) with HID's, Comfort Package, Security Package, 3.73 Gears, Brembo Brake Package, 19" Wheels with Street Tires and drove it 70 miles from the dealer straight to the track! We went 13.2 @ 110mph with a 2.10 60ft with no burn...out or cool down.

I think made 1 at the most 2 runs on the car stock. Bad track prep and wheel hop surely didn't help the times. Still not bad for a brand new car with 70 miles on it. Same car made 368rwhp on a Mustang Dyno.

I do wish they would have made a few more runs and trips to the track in stock form to see what it would do.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Yea trying to see what they added, because that is a big diff from 13.2.

When asked about the tuning they said they were doing and suspension changes they answered:

Not many changes tuning wise, still testing! Only suspension changes done is our ultimate suspension kit - upper and lower control arms, panhard bar and torque box braces! No more wheel hop!

[Mike P]

Dang man, this thread is blowin' up.....


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[RobH]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

Okay so all I've gathered from the arguments on here is that without the 3.73's and performance tires, the 2011 Mustang GT is not as fast in the 1/4 mile as a 2010/2011 Camaro. Note the 2011 because all of you Chevy boys who were crying "Wait until the 2011 comes out, its not fair". Well now the only things Chevy has added are an HUD setup (cool?) and Synergy Green (<-WTF?).

Besides these neat-o features that all you were pining about they have added NOTHING IN THE WAY OF INCREASING PERFORMANCE.

That being said, the base 2011 GT may be a bit slower without the tires and gears, however let us not forget that the bast GT is still CHEAPER than a Camaro 1SS. Therefore, the GT with the added 3.73 gears option is about the same price.

On top of that, if you do Opt for the $2K Brembo and performance tire and wheel option, the performance numbers look more like those from Germany, and by that I mean the M3. The 2011 GT pulls a 0.97g on the skidpad, and does 60-0 braking in just 104 feet. Those numbers are actually spot on with an M3.

Wait did anyone see the 2010 Camaro putting up those kinds of braking and handling numbers? NO, NO THEY DIDN'T.

Fact of the matter is that Ford flat out built a better car.

1) The V6 has a world class motor in it, the 3.7L Duratec.
2) The engineers at Ford have made a tremendous motor in the 5.0L. It has incredible volumetric efficiency, and has the highest HP per liter of any of its competitors.
3) The Mustang easily has the nicest interior of any of its competitors.
4) The options list is incredible. You can design any style that fits your budget or taste.

5) The dynamics of the car as a whole are amazing. You get a vehicle that has excellent quality fit and finish, a high level of engineering, and performance to boot. It handles well, it's comfortable, it's fast, and looks good. The 2011 Mustang really is a great package from the V6 to the GT.

You all may love your Camaro, but styling aside, if each and every one of you went out and test drove a 2011 GT or even a V6, you would all be taken by surprise at how nice of an automobile it really is.

SO to conclude, the Camaro may be faster by a few tenths in econo-trim, but as an overall vehicle, the 2011 Mustang is a better car. Its not ONLY performance, or ONLY styling, or ONLY build quality. Its all these things put together in a well packaged automobile that make the Mustang the better car.

If you want a slightly-faster-in-a-straight-line-when-you-compare-base-to-base-trim-levels car, buy the Camaro.

If you want the better of the two cars buy the Mustang.

Maybe you should try capitalizing certain words you want to emphasize. We may be convinced you are right...oh wai...nevermind.

[blufin]

So if you're so dedicated to the mustang, why are you on this formum trying to
convince us that the mustang is better? We (I) don't care what you think or what the magazines say. I bought the camaro because that's what I wanted. In my opinion, it looks much better than the competition and performs very well. I don't go on the challenger forums and try to convince them they have an Inferior car. Stick to
the mustang forums where you can spend your time and energy with like minded people.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

When asked about the tuning they said they were doing and suspension changes they answered:

Nice, such little changes, that wheel hop must have been a killer lol.
12.49 with some suspension stuff. not too bad. if the camaro can touch 12.6 stock this should be a good matchup

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Nice, such little changes, that wheel hop must have been a killer lol.
12.49 with some suspension stuff. not too bad. if the camaro can touch 12.6 stock this should be a good matchup

[mustangman99]

Originally Posted by esperman

maybe all of us fickle Camaor OWNERS should just start visiting your Mustang forums en masse and start sh@ting on your preferred rides.

Give me a break. Camaro outsold Mustang every month since it came out. Deal with it. I doubt these new (outstanding) Mustang motors will do little to sway the consumers.

How many of those were Chevy fanboys like yourself coming back to restore their mullet again? Thats what I thought.

The Mustang will destroy the Camaro in sales as it has since 1964.5.

BTW 9 Million Mustangs. Enjoy your mullet.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

How many of those were Chevy fanboys like yourself coming back to restore their mullet again? Thats what I thought.

The Mustang will destroy the Camaro in sales as it has since 1964.5.

BTW 9 Million Mustangs. Enjoy your mullet.

There it is fellas. True colors.

[VetteMaro]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

Okay so all I've gathered from the arguments on here is that without the 3.73's and performance tires, the 2011 Mustang GT is not as fast in the 1/4 mile as a 2010/2011 Camaro. Note the 2011 because all of you Chevy boys who were crying "Wait until the 2011 comes out, its not fair". Well now the only things Chevy has added are an HUD setup (cool?) and Synergy Green (<-WTF?).

Besides these neat-o features that all you were pining about they have added NOTHING IN THE WAY OF INCREASING PERFORMANCE.

That being said, the base 2011 GT may be a bit slower without the tires and gears, however let us not forget that the bast GT is still CHEAPER than a Camaro 1SS. Therefore, the GT with the added 3.73 gears option is about the same price.

On top of that, if you do Opt for the $2K Brembo and performance tire and wheel option, the performance numbers look more like those from Germany, and by that I mean the M3. The 2011 GT pulls a 0.97g on the skidpad, and does 60-0 braking in just 104 feet. Those numbers are actually spot on with an M3.

Wait did anyone see the 2010 Camaro putting up those kinds of braking and handling numbers? NO, NO THEY DIDN'T.

Fact of the matter is that Ford flat out built a better car.

1) The V6 has a world class motor in it, the 3.7L Duratec.
2) The engineers at Ford have made a tremendous motor in the 5.0L. It has incredible volumetric efficiency, and has the highest HP per liter of any of its competitors.
3) The Mustang easily has the nicest interior of any of its competitors.
4) The options list is incredible. You can design any style that fits your budget or taste.

5) The dynamics of the car as a whole are amazing. You get a vehicle that has excellent quality fit and finish, a high level of engineering, and performance to boot. It handles well, it's comfortable, it's fast, and looks good. The 2011 Mustang really is a great package from the V6 to the GT.

You all may love your Camaro, but styling aside, if each and every one of you went out and test drove a 2011 GT or even a V6, you would all be taken by surprise at how nice of an automobile it really is.

SO to conclude, the Camaro may be faster by a few tenths in econo-trim, but as an overall vehicle, the 2011 Mustang is a better car. Its not ONLY performance, or ONLY styling, or ONLY build quality. Its all these things put together in a well packaged automobile that make the Mustang the better car.

If you want a slightly-faster-in-a-straight-line-when-you-compare-base-to-base-trim-levels car, buy the Camaro.

If you want the better of the two cars buy the Mustang.

And this is YOUR opinion and i am pretty sure that some people diagree with what you said so strongly that they bought the Camaro.

You my friend are a fanboi

[VetteMaro]

And i would just like to add that IMO when buying a muscle car, the first thing i would look for is acceleration. IMO this is what muscle cars are all about.

And i actually agree that the interior materials in the mustang are superior to the Camaro's (which will be fixed for '12 MY), but i prefer the Camaro's interior design.

And i think the Camaro posted some very respectable handling results in the Car&Driver comparo. I dont remember them right now, but i think they are better or right up there with the mustang handling.