The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by mjf6866

i love discussin' performance and comparisons with the competition! beats the hell out of work!

This is some thread. It's even worse than I first thought. after the first two pages it has nothing to do with the camaro beating the mustang again. I've learned a lot about mopars though.

[ViperTomcat]

I'm at University between my morning and afternoon Senior seminars..so Ive got time to kill.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by mjf6866

i had no problems with those number until i've seen them run better out in the wild. when i see people use them as the only reference, thats when i swing that double edged sword. its ok to hate the challenger, she's an easy target.

But the thing is that the Camaros and Mustangs are getting just about the same numbers in the real world as the mags got, but we are supposed to believe they were off on the Challengers by a good .5 second?

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

But the thing is that the Camaros and Mustangs are getting just about the same numbers in the real world as the mags got, but we are supposed to believe they were off on the Challengers by a good .5 second?

Ah, but what mags have actualy tested and automatic R/T? Just thought I would throw that out there, carry on

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

But the thing is that the Camaros and Mustangs are getting just about the same numbers in the real world as the mags got, but we are supposed to believe they were off on the Challengers by a good .5 second?

So either DA Corrections are bunk, and should never be used..or the conversion is accurate and my car would run between 13.1 and 13.2 in the 1/4 mile, thus completely invalidating the magazine times and destroying the very fabric of the universe (Much like dividing by zero).

So...?

[ssump29]

I'm sorry but when I see a number run 13.6 and then they correct it for would, coulda, shoulda. I don't count the correction, because bottom line is THATS NOT WHAT YOU RAN. Now if you want to go somewhere and achieve those results then more power to you but as I see it you ran a 13.6. Otherwise I'm about to take my highest runs and then adjust them to elevation levels in New Orleans which is below sea level.. lol

[chappy48]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

you can pretend you don't see the "buck teeth" your fellow camaro owner was refering to when he was talking about the mustang, its all good

Just for the record, I saw it and thought it was hilarious Kinda like a badass, muscle car, version of Mater from Cars hahaha.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by jnm2003

13.2 is ridiculous when the mustang weighs 400lbs less than the camaros!! the camaros are almost 4000lbs to mustangs 3600! I got a 12.82 out of my camaro ALMOST stock with only borla mufflers!!!

an UNMODDED (actual stock) Mustang has already run 12.8 and 12.7.....and the Camaro weighs closer to 250lbs more.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

So either DA Corrections are bunk, and should never be used..or the conversion is accurate and my car would run between 13.1 and 13.2 in the 1/4 mile, thus completely invalidating the magazine times and destroying the very fabric of the universe (Much like dividing by zero).

So...?

Again, the mags are getting "real world" times out of the other two cars. Please tell me this is not going over your head.

[mjf6866]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

But the thing is that the Camaros and Mustangs are getting just about the same numbers in the real world as the mags got, but we are supposed to believe they were off on the Challengers by a good .5 second?

could it be that it is just harder to launch? that is a fault of the car that can be overcome to a degree with a new set of rubber.

i've let a close friend of mine try my car, who has hundreds of passes under his belt from old to new muscle cars and, he even has trouble getting those just-right launches. he says the first mod i should do is get rid of the junk that comes stock and get a real performance tire then worry about the rest.

there is no question that the SS and the new GT are quicker than the R/T...just to clear that up folks. just, the R/Ts are not as slow as people make 'em out to be.

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Quoted, thanks.

FYI: (1) ONE, SS has run 12.5 stock, and (1) ONE, SS has run 12.6 stock.

We will talk more in a few weeks though.

This is only what we know of. They are plently running great times that aren't on this site...

Where I race I have be seeing stock SS's run 12.7 on a constant basis and I have also seen stock 2010 GT's running 13 flat and 13.1, but I know they aren't on these forums.. So be careful how you state things as facts.. Just let it be known that's as far as YOU know.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Again, the mags are getting "real world" times out of the other two cars. Please tell me this is not going over your head.

Yes, what I am saying is that on average, the magazine times for the Challenger R/T are wrong. Period, dot, end of sentence. Challengers are running faster than the magazine times claim. Hell it happened at Camaro5 Fest just a few days back, a stock R/T 6 speed ran a 13.5 win against a SS..

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by mjf6866

could it be that it is just harder to launch? that is a fault of the car that can be easily overcome with a new set of rubber.

i've let a close friend of mine try my car, who has hundreds of passes under his belt from old to new muscle cars and, he even has trouble getting those just-right launches. he says the first mod i should do is get rid of the junk that comes stock and get a real performance tire then worry about the rest.

there is no question that the SS and the new GT are quicker than the R/T...just to clear that up folks. the R/Ts are not as slow as people make 'em out to be.

the RT is decently fast and can put up a good race given equal tires, but its also obviously the underdog here despite looking the best.

[mjf6866]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

the RT is decently fast and can put up a good race given equal tires, but its also obviously the underdog here despite looking the best.

THANK YOU. finally someone gets it!