The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Too bad more folks don't show as much common sense as you do. I hold that one Camaro SS/GT500 comparison in the same high regard as I do the recent article/video showing the drag race between the 2010 Camaro SS/2011 Mustang GT.

Let the people who want to debate what some driver did, in some car, in some magazine compared to another one continue on. All that really matters is what you can do in your car. Just because Evan Smith can drive a stock 2010 GT500 into the 11's does not mean I will ever be able to do so, therefore, whatever stock time I am able to achieve is all I have to work with.

I agree with this.

I wish the 2011 GTs were on the street so we could get some privately owned cars and times.

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Hi.

Do I need to get this thread locked?

I don't know, do you?

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Is anybody really trying to suggest that a smaller displacement motor, normally aspirated, has the potential to make more power than one with larger dispacement?

Hmmmm...Camaro gets hit with a gas guzzler tax, maybe?

Yes. I have seen it said here before. But not nearly as many times as ive seen it on pro-mustang boards obviously. The consensus for some is pretty much that the 5.0 has nothing to worry about N/A to N/A vs the LS3.

It is usually to the effect of the 5.0 design being so amazing that it can overcome all the displacement advantage the LS3 has...seen it posted hundreds of times all over the net.

One memorable post on here I recall from one of our very beloved and daily breed of trolls, was a post featuring the infamous new video of the camaro losing to the mustang (posted for the 100th time....literally) accompanied by a suggestion for us to pull off our stock heads and replace the cam to compete....and thats just the beginning.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by Stew

Well, you can't really fudge the subjective data, same track, same day, same conditions, the Mustang had the quicker time. I wouldn't count on anything more than gears suspension upgrades for the 11 Camaro, and I am not sure the gears would actually help and may even hurt as from NHRA Stockers post in the vs section got me thinking, it would almost certainly cause an additional shift to be needed before the end of the 1/4 mile and the difference between 3.45 and 3.73 gears isn't that much anyways. And yes we will see more when the 11 Stang hits the tracks, but considering the 12.9-13.1 the Camaro has gotten from them is a pretty good match for the average LS3 times (maybe even quicker than alot are seeing), I'd say this is a damned good indication of what we will be seeing when they get in the hands of owners.

I conceded the 11 GT, in that review, was the quicker car.

I agree though, once these things hit the streets, then the true story will be told. As will when the 2011 MY Camaro comes out, and hits the streets. Until then, just more bench racing.

Also, I hope it really is that close of a competition, will only serve to improve both cars, and make track days very fun!

yeah, I left Dodge out until they actually do something, lol. Sorry.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

I don't know, do you?

I don't know. So much trash being talked here I feel like inputting some of my own.

Alas, I am too lazy.

My jet engine camaro will smoke any mustang. /trashtalk

[wjones14]

I don't get all the whining comments about biased reviews, it's only a few tenths difference, etc...

How is this not a good thing that Mustang has finally raised the stakes? Is there really any doubt that Chevy will not respond? Doesn't it make sense there will at the very least be new performance axle ratios offered for the '11 Camaro?

Chevrolet worked long and hard to bring this version of the Camaro to the street, with the main goal of being the pony car king, and they're not about to just surrender that title after only 1 year of production...

Competition is good for both Ford and Chevy camps - and even the Dodge boys are in the modern muscle conversation now. Good times!

[snakekiller]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Hi.

Do I need to get this thread locked?

no everything seems fine.

[SuperSport17]

[grocerygetter]

I'm hoping for gear options to be avail. on 2011...find out in the morning hopefully. It'd be nice to go to the dealer with a part number and get some 3.73s or 4.10s. LOL.

['StangBlaster5000]

Motor Trend, is as two faced as a car mag can get!
And talk about bias!
Why would I wan't to read a review of the Camaro, from some Ford fanboy perspective?
That's what I have YouTube for LOL!

[SwiftCat]

Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

It was about as set-up as this.

Well, we all know that Toyota has to find some way to market their product after getting bent over the proverbial auto table, eh?

[justincase_2008]

Originally Posted by todd03blown

need a new tampon maybe?

i dont think that will help

[Stew]

Originally Posted by mrray13

I conceded the 11 GT, in that review, was the quicker car.

I agree though, once these things hit the streets, then the true story will be told. As will when the 2011 MY Camaro comes out, and hits the streets. Until then, just more bench racing.

Also, I hope it really is that close of a competition, will only serve to improve both cars, and make track days very fun!

yeah, I left Dodge out until they actually do something, lol. Sorry.

Indeed, i can't wait until they come out and the 6.4 CHallenger SRT, and the new CHarger and 300, and the rest of the CHallenger updates, and the 201 Camaro COnvertible, and the Toyota and Subaru RWD coupes, , and the next Camry, ok the last one is being silly haha, but it's a great time to be a car guy

[Sax1031]

It is the best time in history to be a pony car guy.