The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[alphaghost]

heres a vid of zl575 and how it fared against the gt500

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by alphaghost

heres a vid of zl575 and how it fared against the gt500

Why not run the zl575 against the Super Snake?

[alphaghost]

oops my bad that was hennessy vs gt500

[Sax1031]

Why are we racing Tuner cars vs factory cars?


Can I pull the price excuse?

[Xp0gam3r]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Why are we racing Tuner cars vs factory cars?


Can I pull the price excuse?

I dont think it makes sense to run the SS vs the shelby, so the shelby wins in that category, and the only contender right now for the shelby are tune cars, UNTIL the z28 is finally out, then we have some proper price comparison/competition

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Xp0gam3r

I dont think it makes sense to run the SS vs the shelby, so the shelby wins in that category, and the only contender right now for the shelby are tune cars, UNTIL the z28 is finally out, then we have some proper price comparison/competition

I don't really think it is fair to run the SS vs the GT500 either. GM has not stepped into that category with the Camaro.

I also don't think it is fair to compare tuner cars to factory cars.

Now tuner GT500s to tuner Camaros would probably be a lot better of a comparison.

[Toyaholic]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

It is the best time in history to be a pony car guy.

Yup... gotta love it.
History will repeat itself and the EPA will come crashing down at some point.

Stock 400 + HP that the aveage joe can afford is a lovely thing!

[Xp0gam3r]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

I don't really think it is fair to run the SS vs the GT500 either. GM has not stepped into that category with the Camaro.

I also don't think it is fair to compare tuner cars to factory cars.

Now tuner GT500s to tuner Camaros would probably be a lot better of a comparison.

agreed. Since when it comes to tuned cars, its whoever has more money wins

We'll just have to wait and see if GM does make the z28 or not

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Why are we racing Tuner cars vs factory cars?


Can I pull the price excuse?

In the comparison I read (Motortrend) they compared equally valued cars.
Hennessey Camaro vs GT500 Supersnake.

Hennessey Camaro - $74,672, (11.9 @ 121.3 mph)
GT500 Supersnake - $84, 390, (12.0 @ 120.1 mph)

And the Hennessy Camaro dominated on the road course.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

In the comparison I read (Motortrend) they compared equally valued cars.
Hennessey Camaro vs GT500 Supersnake.

Hennessey Camaro - $74,672, (11.9 @ 121.3 mph)
GT500 Supersnake - $84, 390, (12.0 @ 120.1 mph)

And the Hennessy Camaro dominated on the road course.

That is a more fair comparison. Those are some sad times and more importantly mph for the stang though. Put a slick on both.

" The improved launch and smooth Second gear exchange got us to the stripe in 10.870 seconds at 134.14 mph. We were in the 10s with 4,120 pounds of Shelby Mustang in full street trim, and with the engine gulping 93-octane pump gas."

This was Evan Smith on a tire in a 2008 Super Snake.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Just saying a little bit of track(1/4) time and he could answer his own questions.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

I never claimed to be a drag racer, which is why I asked YOU OR SOMEONE KNOWLEGABLE to explain, dufus. Thx for pointing out the obvious. You wanna explain my initial question?

Traction could easily be a/the culprit. Poor 60-ft times for whatever reason will hamper your elapsed time but still allow you to run a high mph. If 60-ft times aren't handy look at 0-30mph, 0-40mph times and compare, if the two cars have similar trap speeds but the e.t. is off there is good chance one is hooking up better than the other which would show up in those 60ft or 0-30mph, 0-40mph numbers.

I took a look at the Motor trend comparison after posting the above and what I explain is exactly what you see. By the 30mph mark the Mustang already has a .3 second lead on the Camaro, I'm guessing the Chevy isn't hooking up as well off the line allowing the Mustang to put a few tenths on the Camaro right away. Given what the rest of that acceleration info shows, I would also guess that the Mustang is geared a little better for the engines power curve as well, which is possibly how we end up with a .4 second gap by the end of the 1/4 mile.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

What if you were to change the tranny gearing? Do you know if that would require EPA re-cert?

Yes, it would as it would change the scenario for every car, as some here have already discussed. Well, to be honest, if it was an optional gear set in the transmission that didn't change anything else about the car I'm not sure if they would have to. I'll have to check into that with some old friends.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by syr74

Yes, it would as it would change the scenario for every car, as some here have already discussed. Well, to be honest, if it was an optional gear set in the transmission that didn't change anything else about the car I'm not sure if they would have to. I'll have to check into that with some old friends.

That is what I figured.

I even said myself I thought a change in tranny gear ratio would require a re-cert because it would effect all Camaros.

[tony1]

All I can say after reading these 1,000 threads is when moding starts the Stang will need to go with a Supercharger to keep up. When any on the new 5.0's hit the road ..get out of the way of my 6.2.. another important point is the Camaro looks much better. ... I just said this to get the Rustangs blood going.... really The SS looks great and is too plenty fast on the Street and if Ford drops a larger Engine in to stop the bleeding from Camaro sales so be it.. I don't feel the need to defend the Camaro if the Ford stock for stock can now run equal with the SS.. to each his own.Plus there always has and and always will be the Chevy and Ford rivalery which is good..no need to get nasty.