The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Stew

Just to put this out there, even if GM gave the SS a 3.73 gear it would be closer, but still not quicker than the GT.

Only time will tell.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Only time will tell.

Indeed

[garagelogic]

Yep, and in the meantime, everyone can continue to bench race since that seems to be the only kind of racing many people in this thread do. No offense intended to those in the thread who do put their cars through their paces from time to time.

[Sax1031]

My lowly stock 2000 GT has no place in the performance argument.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Yep, and in the meantime, everyone can continue to bench race since that seems to be the only kind of racing many people in this thread do. No offense intended to those in the thread who do put theri cars through their paces from time to time.

Can't wait for an 2011 Mustang, v6 in my case, to show up, lol! Going to be fun, win or lose.

[bigjohns97]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

If the SLP car came with factory GM warranty I might could agree the comparison being apple to apples.

SVO, SVT, etc.. are all parts of Ford. It is their in house performance team. Much the same as the people that would have done the Z06 and ZR1.

SLP is not owned by GM nor are their cars sold as GM vehicles with GMs warranty.

Guess that warrenty I got with my 01 SS was just a piece of paper then huh?

[1bad65]

Doesn't GM make 3.73s that can be put on the 5th Gen SS Camaros?

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by bigjohns97

Guess that warrenty I got with my 01 SS was just a piece of paper then huh?

wow I hate to even comment on this ignorance.

Yes your SS will have a factory warranty because GM contracted SLP to do the WS6s and SSs.

But the argument was not about 4th gens it was about the ZL575 SLP Camaro SS which is NOT covered by GM.

Hopefully that clears this up.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by mrray13

I seriously doubt that gas mileage will stay the same, especially since they show the Mustang averaging 2mpg less then either the Camaro and the Challenger.

In think you may be missing the point here. Whether or not real world gas mileage is the same the epa rating wont change as they wont retest the car for the 3.73:1 gears...all manual transmission GT's will receive the same epa rating regardless of gearing. Given that, the only two numbers MT can provide are the epa rating and their actual observed mileage.

Originally Posted by mrray13

Does the Mustang have two octane maps in it's programming? One where it'll detune the car to run the lower octane? If not, then the lower octane in the Mustang won't hurt it as much as the Camaro, which does have two octane maps in it's programming.

No, it doesn't have two, it's effectively infinitely variable meaning it adapts to whatever is in the tank within reason. So yes, it bumps down the power with regular unleaded in the tank and it will hurt the Mustang at least as much as the Camaro.

Food for thought, if they really did run the Ford and Chevy on regular unleaded imagine what would happen when they put premium in it.

Originally Posted by mrray13

Isn't the GT500 basiclly Ford's tuner Mustang? It's a limited production SVO built car, correct? If so, then comparing it to the ZL575 would be the right comparision. SLP is equilivant to SVO, so it would be apples to apples. At least IMHO.

GM doesn't own SLP, Ford does own SVT and SVT serves as in an house tuner building brand new, smogged and safety tested,honest to goodness Ford branded production vehicles. GM had their own in house tuner recently, and it wasn't SLP, but they killed it.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

It is kind of shitty to not cover the new zl packages or what ever they are. What kind of warranty do they get? Bumper to bumper with no powertrain? Limited powertrain? Anything?

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

It is kind of shitty to not cover the new zl packages or what ever they are. What kind of warranty do they get? Bumper to bumper with no powertrain? Limited powertrain? Anything?

If you are talking about the new SLP ZL cars they get their warranty from SLP. Which I know on the 575 is 3 years/36,000 miles.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

If you are talking about the new SLP ZL cars they get their warranty from SLP. Which I know on the 575 is 3 years/36,000 miles.

Where would you get the car serviced though?

[bigjohns97]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

wow I hate to even comment on this ignorance.

At least you know how i felt now..

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by bigjohns97

At least you know how i felt now..

You believed GM warrantied the new SLP camaros?