Don’t ask, Don’t tell - Page 2

2ndgenz28 · 02-12-2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolman

Then why not put everyone together men, women, gays etc.. One shower for all since it's childish to think that way. Women shouldn't get upset having to shower with men after all were all grown up here now.

BINGO, equaly rights lawyers will be all over it.

And the military is a chump push over.

Why that arrmy base attack happened, everyone was more worried about being called a racist for washing out someone of a different faith, rather then protect lives. [ PLZ DON"T TURN THIS POLTICIAL ]

What Im worried about is the cost, someone will push the issue and were gonna spend 500mill to build all new wash/restroom or to build uni sex ones.

Can you imagin what women will say when they walk into the no stall bathroom and they gotta squat next to a guy taking his morning dump???

BlackSS831 · 02-12-2010, 02:44 PM

*CamaroSpike23* · 02-12-2010, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Can you imagin what women will say when they walk into the no stall bathroom and they gotta squat next to a guy taking his morning dump???

well, thats all part of being in the military.

*GTAHVIT* · 02-12-2010, 03:32 PM

We haven't even begun to talk about the impacts of serving on board ships... Introducing women into Navy ships was a catastrophe... NOT because they are Women... But because logistically they must be given privacy... I agree. Men are comfortable serving with Gay men as long as they are "protected" from being sexually approached by a gay man. Meaning you can be gay but you can't legally approach me as a Gay man looking for any kind of inappropriate relationship.

In my opinion Don't as Don't tell is brilliant. it allows for Men/Women to feel protected from homosexual advances while allowing homosexuals to serve and still be gay in their personal lives... I don't see what the problem is.

But if you allow them to be openly Gay... Then the same rules should be appied to the segregation of men and women as Gay women and gay men. So on board ship we'd need to have 4 different kinds of berthings... Gay women, Gay men, Straight women, Straight men..... OOOPs wait that doesn't work either.... Cus if we put all the homosexuals together in their own berthings.... That doesn't work does it... let me see... All gay men can sleep shower and "live" together... Nope... That would lead to sex in the floating city... Not becasue Gays are more sexually active, but because they are human and sexual urges are a part of being human... That's why women and men are separated in the first place isn't it....

So who's right is the most important... Should Homosexuals be allowed their sexual preferences on board ships while straight service members must contain themselves???

Well that's not fair either is it....

There is no easy answer. I'm not for or against Gays in the military. The bottom line is Don't ask don't tell is the best way to handle it.

The military is tough enough without having to endure sexual/homosexual stress. Most of them just want to get throught the day so they can get home safe and sound. Sexual harrassment is a strict policy for a reason. And please don't try and say that we can control our sexual urges... Very Very few people can actually do that...

I say leave it alone... DADT works. just fine.

2ndgenz28 · 02-12-2010, 03:38 PM

Fox just barley touched it with a 10ft pole but they said they would have to repeal the no sodomy rules in the military.

Why, I don’t know but they said it would be part of it too.

Which is a whole new can of worms.

can, worms, sodomy, there is a joke in there some where

cab2g · 02-12-2010, 03:48 PM

worms eat poop

but seriously, why isn't this thread flagged as a political thread? It evokes pretty strong emotions and I don't know if this forum is the correct place for it. I'm just saying...

*GTAHVIT* · 02-12-2010, 03:49 PM

Say the word and I'll close it.

No political references as of yet.

But I will be more than willing to close it if it offends anyone.

2ndgenz28 · 02-12-2010, 04:01 PM

If I say I find the “I like the new Mustang” threads offensive will you lock them too?

We should be able to discuess current events like the bash Toyota thread, or the thread where everyone yelled at a kid who wanted to return his Camaro for a BMW as long as folks keep it within reason.

Censorship is not the American way.

cab2g · 02-12-2010, 04:03 PM

doesn't offend me. I'm not in the military so I personally don't care about the topic. I was only slightly annoyed by this comment...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew10

Just leave it alone. I am so sick of the majority always trying to please the minority.

I was going to post a reply, but topics like this just bring out the haters on both sides.

*GTAHVIT* · 02-12-2010, 04:06 PM

However,

We have a stated policy that this is not a political forum and things like Global warming, Terrorism, Health Care... all cause us to get hot under the collar.

For now we'll give a little more room for car related debate.

The above topics get very little room here.

And remember, this is a privately owned and operated forum.

You can"t come into my house, call my wife ugly, and expect "freedom of speech" to keep me from throwing you out...

*CamaroSpike23* · 02-12-2010, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

However,

We have a stated policy that this is not a political forum and things like Global warming, Terrorism, Health Care... all cause us to get hot under the collar.

For now we'll give a little more room for car related debate.

The above topics get very little room here.

And remember, this is a privately owned and operated forum.

You can"t come into my house, call my wife ugly, and expect "freedom of speech" to keep me from throwing you out...

well, if your wife had better physical attributes....

Freedom of Speech

*GTAHVIT* · 02-12-2010, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

well, if your wife had better physical attributes....

Freedom of Speech

yeah but you live here... I can't throw you out...

BackinBlackSS/RS · 02-12-2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolman

I know but at least I don't know who they are.

Brokinarrow · 02-12-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Fox just barley touched it with a 10ft pole but they said they would have to repeal the no sodomy rules in the military.

Why, I don’t know but they said it would be part of it too.

Which is a whole new can of worms.

can, worms, sodomy, there is a joke in there some where

According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, members are not allowed to engage in sex outside of the missionary position. No bull.

02-12-2010, 03:32 PM	#18
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	We haven't even begun to talk about the impacts of serving on board ships... Introducing women into Navy ships was a catastrophe... NOT because they are Women... But because logistically they must be given privacy... I agree. Men are comfortable serving with Gay men as long as they are "protected" from being sexually approached by a gay man. Meaning you can be gay but you can't legally approach me as a Gay man looking for any kind of inappropriate relationship. In my opinion Don't as Don't tell is brilliant. it allows for Men/Women to feel protected from homosexual advances while allowing homosexuals to serve and still be gay in their personal lives... I don't see what the problem is. But if you allow them to be openly Gay... Then the same rules should be appied to the segregation of men and women as Gay women and gay men. So on board ship we'd need to have 4 different kinds of berthings... Gay women, Gay men, Straight women, Straight men..... OOOPs wait that doesn't work either.... Cus if we put all the homosexuals together in their own berthings.... That doesn't work does it... let me see... All gay men can sleep shower and "live" together... Nope... That would lead to sex in the floating city... Not becasue Gays are more sexually active, but because they are human and sexual urges are a part of being human... That's why women and men are separated in the first place isn't it.... So who's right is the most important... Should Homosexuals be allowed their sexual preferences on board ships while straight service members must contain themselves??? Well that's not fair either is it.... There is no easy answer. I'm not for or against Gays in the military. The bottom line is Don't ask don't tell is the best way to handle it. The military is tough enough without having to endure sexual/homosexual stress. Most of them just want to get throught the day so they can get home safe and sound. Sexual harrassment is a strict policy for a reason. And please don't try and say that we can control our sexual urges... Very Very few people can actually do that... I say leave it alone... DADT works. just fine. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

02-12-2010, 03:48 PM	#20
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	worms eat poop but seriously, why isn't this thread flagged as a political thread? It evokes pretty strong emotions and I don't know if this forum is the correct place for it. I'm just saying... __________________

02-12-2010, 03:49 PM	#21
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	Say the word and I'll close it. No political references as of yet. But I will be more than willing to close it if it offends anyone. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

02-12-2010, 04:06 PM	#24
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	However, We have a stated policy that this is not a political forum and things like Global warming, Terrorism, Health Care... all cause us to get hot under the collar. For now we'll give a little more room for car related debate. The above topics get very little room here. And remember, this is a privately owned and operated forum. You can"t come into my house, call my wife ugly, and expect "freedom of speech" to keep me from throwing you out... __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

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2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	If I say I find the “I like the new Mustang” threads offensive will you lock them too? We should be able to discuess current events like the bash Toyota thread, or the thread where everyone yelled at a kid who wanted to return his Camaro for a BMW as long as folks keep it within reason. Censorship is not the American way.