Consolidated Toyota Recall/Safety thread

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by coolman

I saw that on the news tonight. Pretty bad when even he can't get through to toyota.

Funny haha I don't expect it was my doing but I did forward that to every big news org and some local

As if one of the very best programmer/computer builder can't get their attention, it shows how far up there A$$ their head is.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by coolman

I Know what your saying. I get it. But, sometimes if they don't get that push they will let the dollar sign out weigh what is right. Frankly after reading that chrysler does this, I would give them a second look. It shows that they go above what is required for safety. I believe if GM was on that list we wouldn't be having this conversation because you would then agree.

Nope. I don't view this as a safety issue...because the failsafe is intended to compensate for another components deficiencies...that's counter-productive in my mind. Plus, "there's more than one way to skin a cat" as they say, there's no doubt some other system implemented in GM vehicles to account for electronic throttle issues.

And for the record, GM does go above and beyond the imposed safety standards in their vehicles. This isn't the only measure of that.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by coolman

Sorry, but I don't see how a stuck throttle is not a safety issue and how designing a way to keep that from happening is not a fail safe. Your argument makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense:

A stuck throttle is a safety issue.
A fail-safe/redundant throttle sensor is not. It is to prevent the safety issue from becoming an...issue.
And I never defined a fail-safe.

The safety engineering should start at the throttle components, and thus make the "fail-safe" components unnecessary. I also said that there are other ways to overcome the issue that toyota is experiencing...only intended as support of my belief that they shouldn't be "made" to do anything.

[FenwickHockey65]

Toyota is now being accused by US Representatives of lying to the American public.

Goodbye toyota. Nice knowing you.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by coolman

I know a lot of you are college students probably and many are going for some type of engineering ,but you don't know nearly as much as you think you do, and it pays sometimes to listen to someone who's been around awhile. You just might learn something you didn't know.

Funny...I find myself telling people that all the time!

Don't appreciate the shots, bud....:(

[FenwickHockey65]

You two are arguing when you should be celebrating the epic faceplant of toyota.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by coolman

I'm willing to say sorry man. Were not going to solve the worlds problems on here anyhow.

It's all good.

But says you....give me one week in power...that's all. Just one.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

You two are arguing when you should be celebrating the epic faceplant of toyota.

Too right, you!

Back to our regularly perscribed dose of toyota-flavored haterade...


Administration "Not Finished with Toyota"

Toyota Motor Corp.'s quality crisis deepened Tuesday, as U.S. regulators accused the company of dragging its feet on fixing defective gas pedals and threatened civil penalties and further reviews of Toyota products.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

And a quick check on Google Finance shows toyota stock plummeting almost $20.00 since the middle of last month.

[Mr. Wyndham]

[2ndgenz28]

"Shinichi Sasaki, told reporters in Japan that prompting from the DOT "greatly helped to push us to act swiftly on the problem." Mr. Sasaki said the company had been considering whether to take action for some time."

WTF

"Mr. Sasaki also said Toyota first identified problems with the accelerator in its Tundra pickup trucks in March 2007."

So some time means a good 3 years + they have known.

GULITY case closed

[bluch]

Nevermind. He had already taken it back and the mechanic said it was okay....maybe he is just blaming his sh!tty driving on this...who knows...anybody that gets in a crash in a toyota has a excuse now....maybe it won;t work, but its worth a shot i guess...

ST. PETERSBURG, FL -- A four car crash on Monday night is being blamed on a faulty gas pedal.

54-year-old Hoai Luong, who was driving a 2007 Toyota Camry, said the gas pedal stuck before the car flipped and wound up on its roof.

"She just said it would not stop. That was it," said witness Paul Jackson.

Luong, of St. Petersburg, was traveling northbound on 34th Street North toward the intersection of Central Avenue at around 8:41 p.m. She told police the gas pedal stuck, causing her to accelerate into the rear of a 1985 Chrysler sedan that was stopped at a red light. The force of the collision sent the 1985 Chrysler into a 2001 Chrysler sedan.

The Camry flipped over, slid across the intersection and into the front of a 2006 Nissan sedan. Several drivers and passengers suffered non-life-threatening injuries in the crash and were taken to local hospitals.

The family claimed they took the Camry to a dealership just days earlier and it was cleared. Loung's husband Tuan Tran said through an interpreter,

"We wanted to check the car after hearing about the recall. The mechanic checked it with a flashlight and that was it. It was only 30 seconds"

The GM of the dealership could not comment. But, St. Petersburg Police Officer Mike Jockers said the pedals were not to blame. Jockers said the serial numbers don't even match the ones recalled.

The car has been impounded by St. Petersburg police as part of the accident investigation.

Last night's crash comes on the heels of an announcement by Toyota that a fix for potentially sticky gas pedals on millions of cars.

Toyota's fix for the problem that led to the recall of millions of cars has not come soon enough to prevent a consumer backlash in the U.S. and elsewhere that is battering its sales.

One of the automaker's top executives on Tuesday said the damage from the global recall of nearly 4.6 million vehicles may be greater than previous quality problems because of the massive scale.

"This is unprecedented in having caused this huge problem for customers," said Shinichi Sasaki, who oversees quality control at the world's No. 1 automaker.

He said it was too soon to put a number on the ultimate cost of the recall. But Tatsuo Yoshida, an auto analyst at UBS in Tokyo, estimated the recalls are likely to cost about $900 million, and lost sales are already costing Toyota another $155 million a week.

The recall to fix a gas pedal that can stick when depressed covers some 2.3 million vehicles in the United States alone, including some of Toyota's best-selling models, such as the Camry and Corolla. The company has recalled millions more because of floor mats that can catch the gas pedal.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The funny part is that I swear I heard a toyota commercial while I had this on in the background while doing homework some time ago.

[Mr. Wyndham]

What's wrong?

[Mr. Wyndham]

ah.