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Old 02-02-2010, 02:10 PM   #169
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169 meters is an awful long distance for a 60 mph stop. 169 feet sounds more like it and is a bit higher than typical for passenger cars
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:21 PM   #170
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169 meters is an awful long distance for a 60 mph stop. 169 feet sounds more like it and is a bit higher than typical for passenger cars
IDK, what is acceptable for cars like that. Doesn't the corvette do it in 100ft? So I would only assume that anything else from chevy would be higher But 169ft sounds high
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:32 PM   #171
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IDK, what is acceptable for cars like that. Doesn't the corvette do it in 100ft? So I would only assume that anything else from chevy would be higher But 169ft sounds high
Well, 169m is 554 feet. I think thats worse than most tractor trailers. Cars with excellent braking (like the ZR1) can do it in less than 100ft. Less than 115 is very good. 130 is good, 145 is getting a bit long for a car yet is fairly common with trucks. But GM's safe distance must be longer than any car they sell.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:32 PM   #172
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169 meters is an awful long distance for a 60 mph stop. 169 feet sounds more like it and is a bit higher than typical for passenger cars
At wide-open throttle?
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:37 PM   #173
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At wide-open throttle?
I don't think GM has a braking standard for cars at WOT, so I assumed that it is universal.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:42 PM   #174
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I don't think GM has a braking standard for cars at WOT, so I assumed that it is universal.
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If everyone would just be made to due what these guys are already doing then braking at WOT would be a mute point.
They are 'made' to do enough....certain somebody's could maybe just not f*** up the pedal design in the first place...
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:58 PM   #175
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Oh, by the way ... anyone catch Steve Wozniak's (co-founder of Apple) story about unintended acceleration:

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Here's Toyota's line: its two recalls for floormats and sticking accelerator pedals should cover all potential cases of sudden unintended acceleration in its batch of recalled vehicles. Both recalls are for mechanical issues, and Toyota spokesman John Hanson claims, "After man years of exhaustive testing we have not found any evidence of an electronic [software] problem that would have led to unwanted acceleration."

Enter Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple and a jolly guy who knows a thing or two about software. While speaking at the Discovery Forum 2010, the Woz claimed that his 2010 Prius, which is not a part of either recall, has an accelerator that "goes wild but only under certain conditions of cruise control." He also claimed that it's repeatable. Though Woz said he has tried to contact both Toyota and the National Highway Traffic Safety Institute, neither has reportedly investigated his claim.

Why is this news? Because despite Toyota's claim that any potential risk for sudden unintentional acceleration in its recalled vehicles is mechanically related, there are lingering reports of other cases, including ones involving vehicles not affected by either recall, that could be software-related. Proving that software caused an instance of sudden acceleration is tricky, so the fact that Woz claims he can repeat the issue makes his case appear to be one worth investigating.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:59 PM   #176
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I suppose.

They are 'made' to do enough....certain somebody's could maybe just not f*** up the pedal design in the first place...
That seems to be the whole cause of the problem lol.
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Toyota will get to it in about 8 years or so.
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So the guy makes how much money, and he still drives a Prius?? Go buy a Tesla roadster man!
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:55 PM   #179
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Heard a survey of potential new car buyers. Reportedly, 25% said they now would NOT consider a toyota. Furthur, toyota's reputation among car buyers has dropped some 15 points just last month. Nice going, toyota. New sales figures from last month showed toyota DOWN, as GM up 14%, Ford up 24%. I am laughing at your "superiority", toyota. ROT IN HELL!
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:03 PM   #180
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Heard a survey of potential new car buyers. Reportedly, 25% said they now would NOT consider a toyota. Furthur, toyota's reputation among car buyers has dropped some 15 points just last month. Nice going, toyota. New sales figures from last month showed toyota DOWN, as GM up 14%, Ford up 24%. I am laughing at your "superiority", toyota. ROT IN HELL!
I don't think I can explain how happy that makes me. So....very happy.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:09 PM   #181
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This is a golden time for Chevy, Ford & Dodge to step up thier quality game here in America !!! and finally silence the Toyota / Honda / Nissan machine from claiming thier product is so much superior !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:12 PM   #182
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Fail safes are good business. If that line of thinking was used in the heating world, there would be a lot more blown up people , house fires, and CO deaths.
Don't get me wrong...I think it's an easy 'pre-fix' to this sort of thing...but I don't want to see them made to do anything.
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