THIS is the news we want to see for a change

[ZLRob]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...na-2025-11-12/

Just happened to stumble across this article this morning. If this is actually happening (which all economics point to it actually having to happen) this would be some of the best news for us since they started doing this crap in the 90's.

Let's not get political here, but this move would open up jobs for Americans and start boosting the economy again, AND quality of parts should and could improve tenfold. Seems like a big win for me.

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by ZLRob

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...na-2025-11-12/

Just happened to stumble across this article this morning. If this is actually happening (which all economics point to it actually having to happen) this would be some of the best news for us since they started doing this crap in the 90's.

Let's not get political here, but this move would open up jobs for Americans and start boosting the economy again, AND quality of parts should and could improve tenfold. Seems like a big win for me.

It's kind of a win-lose scenario that you always get with manufacturing. Yes bringing this production back to the states would be good because it would create jobs and (in theory) improve quality of these parts, but the downside is the pricing would increase considerably. For some things most people would be fine paying that premium but you have to think there's a reason this production got shipped overseas in the first place... It's because we want CHEAP parts, and that's how you get cheap parts, produce them overseas where labor is cheap.

[ZLRob]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

It's kind of a win-lose scenario that you always get with manufacturing. Yes bringing this production back to the states would be good because it would create jobs and (in theory) improve quality of these parts, but the downside is the pricing would increase considerably. For some things most people would be fine paying that premium but you have to think there's a reason this production got shipped overseas in the first place... It's because we want CHEAP parts, and that's how you get cheap parts, produce them overseas where labor is cheap.

Good and fair points. I think in a perfect world there would be an equal distribution of work available here in the country and work out overseas. This would still allow cheaper parts, maybe not as cheap as they are currently but would still allow manageable pricing. It would also allow for good amount of job availability here to the people. It would also boost parts quality as well because it would force higher standards to maintain a predictable level of quality instead of the guessing game you get right now that could fail right out of the box. At least, you would think it would.

[bishopts]

Got my new rear emblem.
Lots of low wage 2nd and 3rd would countries to chose from for manufacturing options.
But it might still be more cost effective to replace UAW employees with robots here in the states.

[xstuntman]

We are coming back slowly and it's great to watch. I try hard to buy American and it's impossible a lot of times and yeah, the quality on import stuff is usually low. If you want the next gens to join in the great American car culture making it here is a must and it looks like pride, teamwork, and rooting for the home team is on the rise. 🇺🇸

Now to get rid of all those pesky EPA regs that make U.S. cars entropy nightmares.

[PDXSSCE]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

It's kind of a win-lose scenario that you always get with manufacturing. Yes bringing this production back to the states would be good because it would create jobs and (in theory) improve quality of these parts, but the downside is the pricing would increase considerably. For some things most people would be fine paying that premium but you have to think there's a reason this production got shipped overseas in the first place... It's because we want CHEAP parts, and that's how you get cheap parts, produce them overseas where labor is cheap.

Exactly and we're not speaking of slight increases in the prices of parts. While it may not be an issue for Cadillac customers, generally speaking, I don't know that Chevrolet customers are in the income bracket to pay for the increases.

[PDXSSCE]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Got my new rear emblem.
Lots of low wage 2nd and 3rd would countries to chose from for manufacturing options.
But it might still be more cost effective to replace UAW employees with robots here in the states.

"GM executives have been telling suppliers they should find alternatives to China". Yeah, manufacturing isn't returning to the States, it's simply moving elsewhere in Asia or Mexico.

[snizzle]

This, in reference to our reliance on China:
“In some cases this has been 20 or 30 years in the making, and we’re trying to undo it in a few years,” he said. “It’s not going to happen that fast.”

I hope though that automakers at least diversify production of parts as I believe they should propulsion methods and energy generation.

Bringing production of parts/vehicles back here though is tricky given the cost of labor from combative unions that are poor "partners" and the global competition playing by different rules. Outside of tariffs, we have no way to compete. The 400k UAW members may be happy (and especially their leadership), but nobody else is with an avg transaction price of a new car at 50k. A new car is now a luxury purchase.

[ZLRob]

Originally Posted by xstuntman

We are coming back slowly and it's great to watch. I try hard to buy American and it's impossible a lot of times and yeah, the quality on import stuff is usually low. If you want the next gens to join in the great American car culture making it here is a must and it looks like pride, teamwork, and rooting for the home team is on the rise. 🇺🇸

Now to get rid of all those pesky EPA regs that make U.S. cars entropy nightmares.

ALL OF THIS right here.

[Aqua Blue RS/SS]

Originally Posted by xstuntman

We are coming back slowly and it's great to watch. I try hard to buy American and it's impossible a lot of times and yeah, the quality on import stuff is usually low. If you want the next gens to join in the great American car culture making it here is a must and it looks like pride, teamwork, and rooting for the home team is on the rise. 🇺🇸

Now to get rid of all those pesky EPA regs that make U.S. cars entropy nightmares.

Tell me about it. I’m looking at new duramaxes right now. Wishing the current epa would kill def off for good.

[gblaue]

Being a design engineer for a Tier 1 supplier for almost all automotive companies, it's almost impossible to source/produce parts here in the US. Our economic structure just doesn't support it. Car manufacturers want suppliers to operate on 2-3% profit margins. I have had accounting people at car companies yell at me over a 1/2 cent label that they didn't want to pay for. We invest millions in the design, testing, validation, and production of parts that we may produce 1/2 million of over a 5 year vehicle life. The ROI isn't that good if you're a publicly held company. Fortunately, my company is privately held. Some of that money has to be put aside for warranty. We test the hell out of our products, and have a typical failure rate <2ppm. But, you really can't do the manufacturing in the US. Moving out of China is a must for our security, so everyone is running to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and other Asian countries. You can get the quality that is necessary. You have to specify it, pay for it, and monitor it. When they slip, make them pay for it. We have had manufacturing plants here in the states in the past. Unfortunately, it wasn't that easy. I've participated in both games. Neither case, do you get what you pay for.

[swisscheese]

Working for an US company over here in Europe I can tell you that there are a lot of other things that hurt the whole western production like bureaucracy and oversized safety stuff in production. the whole ethics stuff nowadays is another topic...
Talking about safety, it is just ridiculous how production machines have to be fenced in so that the most retarded cannot stick a finger anywhere. With stuff like this we will add a few $ here and a few $ there to production costs... But clear that a lot of the so called low cost parts will never be produced in the US again

[xstuntman]

Never say never.

The new sheriff in town is rolling back the prior admins asinine CAFE standards and also ordering the transportation department allow Japanese kei car sales in the U.S. which has been a no go in past years. We are seeing movement in the right direction and I believe there's a push to build these Kei cars in the U.S. so a win win seems to be happening.

[PDXSSCE]

Originally Posted by xstuntman

Never say never.

The new sheriff in town is rolling back the prior admins asinine CAFE standards and also ordering the transportation department allow Japanese kei car sales in the U.S. which has been a no go in past years. We are seeing movement in the right direction and I believe there's a push to build these Kei cars in the U.S. so a win win seems to be happening.