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Old 08-17-2008, 12:54 AM   #43
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Yeh, older Bimmers. Apparently you don't have your head to deep into the Bimmerphile world, because there are quite a few high milage Bimmers (among many other Germans) out there. But I do agree they break easily.
Hey, I gave props to the eta's longevity.

You can drive a 328e or 528e a long time and get great gas mileage. As long as badly designed HVAC controls and persistant little electrical problems don't bother you.

And I was just saying, If you see a Chevrolet or GMC C1500 with with 250,000 miles, you'd be like, "Big deal."

An Accord with 250K and it's like "whatever"

If you work in the automotive industry and you see a Mercedes Benz 380 SE/SEL with 250,000 miles and it's like, "whoa! this guy must really like his car to have already dropped 2 engines at their horribly inflated price into that damn thing."

Ever seen a diesel Lincoln Mark VII? Probably not. The BMW diesel that powered it was short lived.

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Old 08-17-2008, 01:06 AM   #44
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Es ist scheize.
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i don't like BMW. Audi > *
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:22 AM   #45
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IMO the cars aren't even in the same category

as far as i see it the BMW's all have the same look wtf were they thinking



the camaro is a mean aggressive and overall Good looking car \
imo

there you have a comparison on looks
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:41 AM   #46
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Ok guys, let's try to be respectful of one another here...

It IS called Porsche as in Porsh-uh. I had to finally come to grips with that and admit that I was wrong after saying it wrong for many years.

I call it BEAMER. ...as in Bee-mur. suppose you could also call it beemer.

To answer the OP's question. Blur had it right...

The Beamer is more luxurious and the Camaro is more agressive. Each model is a winner in my eyes in the looks department. It just all depends on what the buyer is LOOKING for.
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:02 AM   #47
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OK Beelzebubba, KatarHol I say we agree to disagree. And leave it at that. This has already become too childish. Agreed?
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:04 AM   #48
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Its the internet guys the internet :seesaw:
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:41 AM   #49
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Its the internet guys the internet :seesaw:
NO IT IS NOT GOD DAMMIT!!! IT IS LIFE OR DEATH UP IN HERE....

i mean....jk?
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:27 AM   #50
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Looks: Camaro
Better engineering? We will have to wait and see! GM spent 'Stupid money' making the A-pillar, rocker, firewall, C-pillar and rear fender a ONE PIECE stamping. The new Camaro SHOULD be stiffer than the BMW which does not have that structure in it. Powertrains are a wait and see, but the LS engines are incredibly efficient performers that are dead reliable. BMW buys transmissions from GM for certain cars. The switchgear in my 2007 Tahoe easily beats anything I had in any BMW I have owned...and the Camaro is supposed to be even better inside than my Tahoe. I honestly think that the BMW will have a serious competitor in the SS Camaro. When you factor in the projected $10k-15k price difference...the CAMARO will spank the 3-series and IT'S Competition. (G35, 350Z,A4)
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:52 AM   #51
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OK Beelzebubba, KatarHol I say we agree to disagree. And leave it at that. This has already become too childish. Agreed?
I wasn't offended.

I'm just a motorcycle first kinda' guy.

and I do not like European cars.

European cars really suck to work on. The plastic is really brittle and full of one way assemblies, blind fasteners, ...etc... Not only are they blind but there are 3 or 4 different size fasteners.

Wanna' take apart a GM dash to install an alarm? Most often you will only need a 7mm.

Thieves don't care. One good kick to a Euro-trash car and all that brittle plastic held together with 20 fasteners of different sizes is gone so it can't be an antitheft measure.

Have you ever tried to check the ATF on a Mercedes Benz? There's a dipstick tube, but no dipstick. Just a cap that says MB WORKSHOP ONLY. So not only do they use different sizes and types of fasteners to hold thier brittle plastic pieces together, they are basically stating that you are too stupid to maintain you own car.

And then the wiring is so badly designed and covered with this cheesy cloth tape that once unraveled, will not stick to itself or the wires again. It will stick to your skin and leave this greasy black crap on your clothes though.

And what's up with VW and Audi leaving these huge 10 X1.5 live positive posts just hanging down under the dash begging to be short circuited by anything that conducts electricity? Thanks for the great power supplies but INSULATE THAT STUFF!

I'll end my rant here before I go off on a 30 minute tear about the superiority of Cadillac's push-buton start vs BMW/MB/whatever....
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:26 AM   #52
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I'm probaly going to get the new 09 335i coupe by tommorow my camaro wont come till the end of summer and my lease is up in february so theres no point waiting so ima get a fully loaded 09 335i coupe.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:34 AM   #53
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:43 AM   #54
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Beemers are a sorry excuse for German engineering. These are the guys whos applications to work at Porsche or Benz got denied, so they all got together and made all these sad sad cars. And the people that drive them are the ones who couldn't afford Benzos and Porsches.

The Beemer Hunter has spoken.

BTW: Camaro Looks more badass. Beemer looks like a toy.
just for the record BMW's are better engineered than Benz's.

it takes alot more effort to get 415hp out of a 4.0L than it does to get 450hp out of a 6.2L. And you show me a Benz engine that can rev to 8400rpm and we'll talk about engineering.


Porsche takes the cake on German engineering, but their $$ reflects it. BMW's are GREAT cars, anyone who is blind to that is blind to what it means to build great cars.


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OK This is the last time I will say this. The original slang term for ALL BMW's is BEEMER. The only contry in the WORLD that says BIMMER is America. So I'll take the majority of the world's view. Thankyou very much.

Not to pick on you or anything, but you should tell that to the guys from BMW on the site BIMMERpost.com


As for which one looks better, i think the camaro looks sportier/more agressive, and the BMW looks classy. take your pick.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:51 AM   #55
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The C5 Camaro looks badass, especially the Black, so... in this case

2010 Camaro > 2008 BMW 328

As for engineering...

BMW > GM
Benz > BMW
Porsche > Benz
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:14 AM   #56
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Not to pick on you or anything, but you should tell that to the guys from BMW on the site BIMMERpost.com
also BIMMERforums.com
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Which do you think LOOKS better?

Dont care which one is faster or sounds better or what has the most potential.

Just want to know which you guys think looks better?
BMW but I kinda live in a biased environment (see sig) and i would go for an E46 M3 instead (better looking IMO)
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