2015 MUSTANG FIRST DRIVING REVIEWS

[shine2013]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

You have to admit that he has a point. Where was the love for loyal Mustang enthusiast in the 4th generation era. I mean Ford straight up got its butt kicked in performance during that time but Ford did not care. Know why? Because they were laughing all the way to the bank selling double the amount of Mustangs than GM was the Firebird AND Camaro combined. This is another reason why I think GM didn't do something to the power of the 5th gen mid model especially the L99. They were making great profits so why dip into those if they don't have to. Both companies would rather make money than satisfy the minority enthusiast. I don't condone it one bit but it is what it is. At the end of it all it's about one thing, money.

I remember when the 03/04 Cobras came out when I was in high school and I drooled over them. If Ford is after people who won't consider a Mustang they might be making in roads to their goal. My last girlfriend is 23, fresh out of graduate school, drives a Mini Cooper, and she's planning to buy a new Mustang once they hit lots.

I won't jinx it, but remember the 4th Gens? GM won the performance battle, but didn't Ford win the war?

[khell86]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

You're kidding right? The mustang gained weight because it had to catch up to the Camaro in the ride and handling department which it may or may not have. It definitely did not catch up in the visual appeal arena with this new car thats for sure but I may be a little biased in that department.

The base mustang GT gained 70 lbs compared to the out going model. The current GT's being tested are fully loaded premium GT's with every option ticked. That is skyrocketing the weight to almost 3900 lbs. The same will happen for the camaro as well. Thats just how it works.

[raptor5244]

Gotta love the passion around muscle cars. Ford and Dodge have release their new models. The mustang is kinda blah, the challenger still looks killer and now they brought the 392 to the RT line and they have bragging rights with the Hellcat.

The best cruiser of the bunch has got to be the challenger. It is larger, more comfy, great visibility and just looks cool. Get the 392 and it will run in the 12s. 6 speed manual or 8 speed auto now with active exhaust.

The best handling muscle car has to be the Camaro 1LE. It will always look beautiful since it blends the timeless 69 model with today's technology. The mere fact that the engineers can make a 3900lb car handle like a corvette is impressive.

Then there is the mustang. It just doesn't have that special something going for it. Well, it is a little cheaper.

[BobDigi5060]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Gotta love the passion around muscle cars. Ford and Dodge have release their new models. The mustang is kinda blah, the challenger still looks killer and now they brought the 392 to the RT line and they have bragging rights with the Hellcat.

The best cruiser of the bunch has got to be the challenger. It is larger, more comfy, great visibility and just looks cool. Get the 392 and it will run in the 12s. 6 speed manual or 8 speed auto now with active exhaust.

The best handling muscle car has to be the Camaro 1LE. It will always look beautiful since it blends the timeless 69 model with today's technology. The mere fact that the engineers can make a 3900lb car handle like a corvette is impressive.

Then there is the mustang. It just doesn't have that special something going for it. Well, it is a little cheaper.

50 years, speaks for itself.

The EB is faster than a V6 Camaro and the base Camaro is within pounds of the Mustang GT. This 15' is universally recognized as the best Mustang yet and we haven't seen a Hellcat run faster than the GT500 which is still fresh in my memory! You can keep that opinion, but this much is true.

[1QwikZ28]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Then there is the mustang. It just doesn't have that special something going for it. Well, it is a little cheaper.

Really??? It has outsold the Camaro since its inception...and not by a few thousand. The Mustang will always be the original pony car that set performance trends that GM has followed and tried to top.The Camaro will never be as iconic as the Mustang, sad but true. You can thank Ford for your Camaro. If that is not special in its own right, I dont know what is.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by 1QwikZ28

Really??? It has outsold the Camaro since its inception...and not by a few thousand. The Mustang will always be the original pony car that set performance trends that GM has followed and tried to top.The Camaro will never be as iconic as the Mustang, sad but true. You can thank Ford for your Camaro. If that is not special in its own right, I dont know what is.

I was really referring to the latest model. No arguing the history of the car. I am actually a fan of the mustang and owned a couple fox bodies back in the day. I guess that is where my comment comes from. I was expecting more. It is supposed to be a muscle car, at least in GT trim and it doesn't look aggressive enough to me. Maybe when the GT350 appears I will change my mind.

[87GNX]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

I was really referring to the latest model. No arguing the history of the car. I am actually a fan of the mustang and owned a couple fox bodies back in the day. I guess that is where my comment comes from. I was expecting more. It is supposed to be a muscle car, at least in GT trim and it doesn't look aggressive enough to me. Maybe when the GT350 appears I will change my mind.

I agree its not aggressive but Ford is getting away from the muscle car scene and going a diff route. The challenger imo is getting VERY stale/long in the tooth in styling. The camaro is getting up there as well. Im excited to see the new 6th gen camaro actually.

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by khell86

The base mustang GT gained 70 lbs compared to the out going model. The current GT's being tested are fully loaded premium GT's with every option ticked. That is skyrocketing the weight to almost 3900 lbs. The same will happen for the camaro as well. Thats just how it works.

The Camaro is already at that weight but it will go through a weight reduction for the 6th gen alpha chassis next year, not a weight increase. Remember for a moment that the current car is based off a very robust full-size sedan chassis so the weight was already baked in from the start which the alpha will not present this problem for the new car.

I agree that a strong competent chassis will not be ultra lite weight unless more expensive materials are used but you can look at the ATS cars for a preview of the weight possibilities that the team is working with.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

The Camaro is already at that weight but it will go through a weight reduction for the 6th gen alpha chassis next year, not a weight increase. Remember for a moment that the current car is based off a very robust full-size sedan chassis so the weight was already baked in from the start which the alpha will not present this problem for the new car.

I agree that a strong competent chassis will not be ultra lite weight unless more expensive materials are used but you can look at the ATS cars for a preview of the weight possibilities that the team is working with.

The alpha chassis will gain weight to accommodate a v8 drive-train.

[BobDigi5060]

Originally Posted by 87GNX

The challenger imo is getting VERY stale/long in the tooth in styling.

What!? I wouldn't change a thing. Maybe your just tired of seeing them on a daily basis

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by 1QwikZ28

The new Mustang will be fine...it has been for 50 years. It will get better...

That's the spirit!

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

The alpha chassis will gain weight to accommodate a v8 drive-train.

Mustang fans are hoping and praying that the 6th gen will gain weight or not lose any but when the car loses weight I think those dreams will crash and burn. I'll be the first to come on here and say EPIC FAIL if the car doesn't lose weight. Wonder what every other Mustang fans reaction and response will be when the car loses some weight and has 450HP/460TQ.

[TheReaper]

[QUOTE=VADER SS L99;7964384] Mustang fans are hoping and praying that the 6th gen will gain weight or not lose any but when the car loses weight I think those dreams will crash and burn. I'll be the first to come on here and say EPIC FAIL if the car doesn't lose weight. Wonder what every other Mustang fans reaction and response will be when the car loses some weight and has 450HP/460TQ.]


You should read my post again. I just stated a fact.

[ilirg]

I think what he is saying is the alpha chasis will gain weight due to the v8, not that the 6th gen will gain weight over the 5th gen. I think its a safe bet the 6th gen will lose a good number of poundage.