Why are mustangs faster? - Page 4

Edwin320 · 08-10-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

Stock for stock, no.

Fox body 5.0s were faster than LB9 (Tuned Port 305) or L98 (Tuned Port 350) Camaros, though the 5.0s cars were close enough to L98s to make it a driver's race (as long as the 5.0 had a manual trans). I still loved my L98 IROC though.

C5RocksC5 · 08-10-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Edwin320

Fox body 5.0s were faster than LB9 (Tuned Port 305) or L98 (Tuned Port 350) Camaros, though the 5.0s cars were close enough to L98s to make it a driver's race (as long as the 5.0 had a manual trans). I still loved my L98 IROC though.

That's what I thought. I was too poor back then to afford a nice car but I remember friends with 5.0 and IROCs (305 and 350 TPI) and the 5.0 guys were always beating the IROCs in the streets and strip racing. Man, the sound of a foxbody 5.0 with full exhaust system to me, is still one of the best sounding cars

Lou_Dorchen · 08-10-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pdari

That's what I thought. I was too poor back then to afford a nice car but I remember friends with 5.0 and IROCs (305 and 350 TPI) and the 5.0 guys were always beating the IROCs in the streets and strip racing. Man, the sound of a foxbody 5.0 with full exhaust system to me, is still one of the best sounding cars

You are correct. And the 5.0s responded to mods alot better than the Chevy 305 as well. That was a bad time for the Camaro. The Mustang had the 5.0 engine, which ended up being one of Ford's best V8 engines while the Camaro had the 305 which was one of the worst GM V8 engines.

Call me a mullet if you want, but back then I always preferred the look of the 3rd Gen Camaros over the Foxbody Mustangs though.

Rock36 · 08-11-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

My flipping 2.0L four cylinder had 340 ft/lbs with the full GM factory warranty!

When you consider that back in the day HP was gross, not brake, that 2.0L I4 made more HP (290 bhp) and torque than many V8s did in the day. That's impressive

Actually, the LS3 is slightly wanting in the torque department, in order to move the freight of an SS. Another 50 lb/ft and the car would be something else

Forgive my ignorance but what 2.0L I4 had 340ft-lbs? Are you talking about the Turbo Upgrade GM offered for the turbo 2.0L in the Solstice etc?

I don't know, once F/I comes into the equation it muddies the waters when someone tries to say an engine is just a four cylinder. Yeah, it's just a little four banger alright, with just 20+ PSI of boost ha ha.

hrpiii · 08-12-2012, 08:50 AM

the past is great, but lets get back to today. And put the 2013 GT500, that fast bada$$ Ford, against the stock camaro, you know the fast one, the COPO and see who has the best drag times.

And yes, I'm talking full stock COPO, I'm not talking about any adders or mods.

Rock36 · 08-12-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hrpiii

the past is great, but lets get back to today. And put the 2013 GT500, that fast bada$$ Ford, against the stock camaro, you know the fast one, the COPO and see who has the best drag times.

And yes, I'm talking full stock COPO, I'm not talking about any adders or mods.

If you're going to throw the COPO out there, then its gotta go against one of the the 2013 Cobra Jet Mustangs.

It would still be badass to watch though.

Bob Cosby · 08-12-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hrpiii

the past is great, but lets get back to today. And put the 2013 GT500, that fast bada$$ Ford, against the stock camaro, you know the fast one, the COPO and see who has the best drag times.

And yes, I'm talking full stock COPO, I'm not talking about any adders or mods.

The GT500 is a street car that is intended to be driven on the street.

The COPO is a race car that cannot be driven on the street.

The COPO is a direct competitor to the Cobra Jet Mustang (as stated above) which is also a race car that cannot be driven on the street.

Good luck.

PS....the ZL1 and GT500 are direct competitors.

Apex Motorsports · 08-12-2012, 10:02 AM

You just need to add an arch reactor. No Mustang can handle that kind of power.

Edwin320 · 08-12-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

You just need to add an arch reactor. No Mustang can handle that kind of power.

Those only work on Audis as far as I know.

infernometallicSS · 08-12-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by camarozzzz

Well from what I have read that new GT500? or Boss or whatever? Is supposed to give Camaro's a run for their money - I read this 3rd hand thought so its not quality info...I don't see a point in comparing who is faster though personally. I love all muscle cars.

I rode in a brand new GT500. Holy shit it will walk all over a ZL1 all day any day. It's an amazing car. I love my Camaro but I think that is a fine piece of work there. everything all said and done they paid 66k out the door. It's loaded too.

daytripper · 08-13-2012, 12:55 PM

I love my Camaro . This is my 4th . It is probably a better car than a Mustang and certainly better looking .
That being said ,I just ordered a Shelby GT500 . What can you say about a production car with 662 HP ? I never liked Mustangs ,ever , but I cant resist this one . The most powerful V-8 ever . It also has the stuff to get it all working together, SA . Adjustable launch control and lots more . With this car I'll be able to beat all Mustangs . I figure their isnt much chance of encountering another one of these at a red light .
I am keeping my beautiful Camaro forever .

OmniCamaro · 08-13-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 8AD•SS

They edge a little stock for stock, weight mostly but gears aren't in our favor either but it's all good. Always someone a little faster and most (most not all) who are really concerned with winning the race aren't going to leave their car stock. So now it becomes a pay to play scenario. As long as you love what you have and what your doing with it a little time here and there from the factory shouldn't matter. Just my .02 cents.

Mike.

Bingo! I'd have no other car in the world right now...well the ZL1 I'd take but who wouldn't!

Well put Mike!

mikeyg36 · 08-14-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jayscamaro

I know they weigh lighter, but is there any other reasons? My dad always asks me but I tell him idk since we both don't know about cars I turn to you guys, thanks

A GT will only be faster if the driver can get that garbage mt82 manual transmission into gear. Otherwise...

Sax1031 · 08-14-2012, 01:35 AM

power-to-weight

08-13-2012, 12:55 PM	#53
daytripper Drives: IOM 2012 1SS m6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: east tenn Posts: 198	I love my Camaro . This is my 4th . It is probably a better car than a Mustang and certainly better looking . That being said ,I just ordered a Shelby GT500 . What can you say about a production car with 662 HP ? I never liked Mustangs ,ever , but I cant resist this one . The most powerful V-8 ever . It also has the stuff to get it all working together, SA . Adjustable launch control and lots more . With this car I'll be able to beat all Mustangs . I figure their isnt much chance of encountering another one of these at a red light . I am keeping my beautiful Camaro forever . Last edited by daytripper; 08-13-2012 at 02:06 PM.

08-12-2012, 08:50 AM	#47
hrpiii AKA "Beefcake" Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 8,570	the past is great, but lets get back to today. And put the 2013 GT500, that fast bada$$ Ford, against the stock camaro, you know the fast one, the COPO and see who has the best drag times. And yes, I'm talking full stock COPO, I'm not talking about any adders or mods.

08-12-2012, 10:02 AM	#50
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,165	You just need to add an arch reactor. No Mustang can handle that kind of power.

08-14-2012, 01:35 AM	#56
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	power-to-weight