Bryan Nesbitt out as Cadillac GM...

Blade · 03-02-2010, 09:32 AM

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6615...ted/index.html

Honestly I never enjoyed the PT Cruiser styling and never saw value behind the car. I also can't stand the ugly Caddy's out there on the roads these days. I am sure this is a minority opinion, but I didn't think Nesbitt was much of a GM or designer.

This may also signal Lutz being fired since he hired Nesbitt from Chrysler.

Maa107 · 03-02-2010, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6615...ted/index.html

Honestly I never enjoyed the PT Cruiser styling and never saw value behind the car. I also can't stand the ugly Caddy's out there on the roads these days. I am sure this is a minority opinion, but I didn't think Nesbitt was much of a GM or designer.

This may also signal Lutz being fired since he hired Nesbitt from Chrysler.

Does this also go for the HHR too?

Hylton · 03-02-2010, 09:41 AM

Good.

Leolee · 03-02-2010, 11:00 AM

pt's and hhr are hideous in my opinion

but wasnt lutz the one responsible for the camaro?

tmurphycardesign · 03-02-2010, 12:51 PM

as far as us designers in cadillac...we are none to happy about this.. when nesbitt was promoted to his position as cadillac general manager, we all felt this was huge plus for design and such. The people who are usually assigned to those positions usually are very disconnected to design and have more of a marketing / buisness make. Having someone in that position based from design really would have allowed more decisions that would have helped the overall design and pushed what the image of cadillac should be in the form of its cars, and brand image.....it takes someone with design knowledge to understand sometimes building the right car wont look great in the books, (examples, audi a8, bmw 7 series, these cars do not generate much profit, however they escalate the brand) but you need certain cars to be successful in the long run..if you have someone up top making the decisions based on only immediate profitability..you wont get those decisions that need to happen

bolteon593 · 03-02-2010, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

as far as us designers in cadillac...we are none to happy about this.. when nesbitt was promoted to his position as cadillac general manager, we all felt this was huge plus for design and such. The people who are usually assigned to those positions usually are very disconnected to design and have more of a marketing / buisness make. Having someone in that position based from design really would have allowed more decisions that would have helped the overall design and pushed what the image of cadillac should be in the form of its cars, and brand image.....it takes someone with design knowledge to understand sometimes building the right car wont look great in the books, (examples, audi a8, bmw 7 series, these cars do not generate much profit, however they escalate the brand) but you need certain cars to be successful in the long run..if you have someone up top making the decisions based on only immediate profitability..you wont get those decisions that need to happen

paragraph of the f*cking month right there. well said good sir.

RamAir02 · 03-02-2010, 01:15 PM

Blade · 03-02-2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leolee

pt's and hhr are hideous in my opinion

but wasnt lutz the one responsible for the camaro?

Lutz is in the same argument, because he elevated Nesbitt to the position. So everyone is thinking that his fate ties to Nesbitt too, which it shouldn't be.

As to what tmurphycardesign said, I agree to most of it. I work in software developement and we have the same problems. But my dissatisfaction with the PT, HHR, Caddy designs is a personal. I just don't enjoy the way those cars look. I don't even understand what the new CTS Coupe design is supposed to inspire. Like I said, I am probably in the minority and I don't know the inside of the industry, but as a consumer, I just didn't enjoy anything Cadillac has done in the past few years.

Maa107 · 03-02-2010, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leolee

pt's and hhr are hideous in my opinion

but wasnt lutz the one responsible for the camaro?

....jk jk lol thats why i cant wait to get my camaro!

tmurphycardesign · 03-02-2010, 02:46 PM

GM Announces New North American Leadership Team

DETROIT, March 2 /PRNewswire/ --

Enhanced focus on customer and dealer support
GM North America business unit strengthened
Separate organizations created for sales and marketing

General Motors today announced a restructured North American organization with a number of key leadership changes.
Intense Focus on the Customer
GM North America is focused on strengthening consideration for the company's brands and products, shifting from a combined sales and marketing organization to one that enables the company to engage experts in each respective role. With a flatter structure, accountability is elevated to the highest level.
"It's become extremely clear to me since taking this role that there is a better way to structure this organization," said Mark Reuss, GM North America president. "The premise of the structure is simple -- a clearer marketing focus to sell more vehicles, and freeing our sales and service experts to focus on customers and dealers.
"In order to be successful in North America, we need the right mix of product, people and structure," Reuss continued, "We've worked with a small group of executives to align this model and appoint the best candidates for each job."
All appointments are effective immediately.
Marketing Organization
As the single point for marketing, Susan Docherty is appointed vice president, U.S. marketing, reporting to Reuss. Senior executives reporting to Docherty, responsible for the marketing of their respective brands include:

Jim Campbell, U.S. marketing vice president, Chevrolet;
Don Butler, U.S. marketing vice president, Cadillac. Butler rejoins the company from INRIX; and,
John Schwegman, U.S. marketing vice president, Buick-GMC. Schwegman was most recently Chevrolet product marketing director.

Sales Organization
Reinforcing the company's intense focus on the customer, sales leaders for the brands also reporting directly to Reuss include:

Alan Batey, vice president, sales and service, Chevrolet. Batey was most recently president and managing director of GM's Holden operations in Australia. A replacement for Batey will be named at a later date;
Brian Sweeney remains with the Buick-GMC as U.S. sales and service vice president;
Kurt McNeil, U.S. sales and service vice president, Cadillac. McNeil was previously general sales manager, Chevrolet.

A leader in design, Bryan Nesbitt is leaving Cadillac and returning to his home organization as executive director, advanced concept group, reporting to Ed Welburn, vice president, global design.
Reporting to Reuss, Steve Carlisle is appointed vice president, U.S. sales operations, responsible for dealer network, retail sales support and fleet & commercial. Carlisle was most recently executive director, GM South East Asia Operations, and president, managing director, GM Thailand. Carlisle will be replaced by Martin Apfel, who will report to Tim Lee, president of GM International Operations. Apfel was most recently executive director of global manufacturing and planning. Senior executives reporting to Carlisle, responsible for their respective functions include:

Jim Bunnell, general director, network support; and
Brian Small, general manager, fleet & commercial;
A general manager, retail sales support will be named at a later date.

"This structure has been developed with as few layers as possible between me, the dealer and the customer," said Reuss. "By removing layers and giving leaders increased accountability, we allow them to move faster and focus on what needs to be done."
Other Key North American Organizations
In addition to direct lines for marketing and sales, the following key North American organizations will report directly to Reuss.
New appointments include:

Chris Preuss, vice president and president, OnStar. Preuss was most recently vice president, Communications, reporting to Ed Whitacre. Preuss succeeds Walt Dorfstatter, who will assume an executive director role in global product operations. A replacement for Preuss will be named at a later date;
Kevin Williams, president and managing director, GM Canada. Most recently, Williams was responsible for leading service & parts operations (SPO). He succeeds Arturo Elias, who will take a position in the company's public policy center, reporting to John Montford, senior advisor, public policy;
Steve Hill, general manager, GM customer care and aftersales. Most recently Hill was general manager, retail sales support.

The following executives continue in their current positions:

Grace Lieblein, president and managing director, GM de Mexico;
Diana Tremblay, vice president, manufacturing and labor relations; and
Chuck Stevens, chief financial officer for North America.

Mary Sipes returns to portfolio planning as executive director, North American product planning,a key interface to the global engineering and product development organizations. In this position, she reports to Jon Lauckner, vice president global product planning. Sipes was previously executive director, corporate planning.
The North American team is also supported with executives from key functions including human resources, legal, information technology, and communications.
"This is my team. Leaders with exceptional talent from around the world, combined with strategic thinking from outside. They are the right team for GM North America now, hand-picked and put in place to win," concluded Reuss.
About General Motors: General Motors, one of the world's largest automakers, traces its roots back to 1908. With its global headquarters in Detroit, GM employs 204,000 people in every major region of the world and does business in some 140 countries. GM and its strategic partners produce cars and trucks in 34 countries, and sell and service these vehicles through the following brands: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling. GM's largest national market is the United States, followed by China, Brazil, Germany, the United Kingdom, Canada, and Italy. GM's OnStar subsidiary is the industry leader in vehicle safety, security and information services. General Motors acquired operations from General Motors Corporation on July 10, 2009, and references to prior periods in this and other press materials refer to operations of the old General Motors Corporation. More information on the new General Motors can be found at www.gm.com.

SOURCE General Motors

tmurphycardesign · 03-02-2010, 02:46 PM

in short nesbitt will return to design as an executive designer...pretty much the same position he was in before he left to manage cadillac

Hylton · 03-02-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

as far as us designers in cadillac...we are none to happy about this.. when nesbitt was promoted to his position as cadillac general manager, we all felt this was huge plus for design and such. The people who are usually assigned to those positions usually are very disconnected to design and have more of a marketing / buisness make. Having someone in that position based from design really would have allowed more decisions that would have helped the overall design and pushed what the image of cadillac should be in the form of its cars, and brand image.....it takes someone with design knowledge to understand sometimes building the right car wont look great in the books, (examples, audi a8, bmw 7 series, these cars do not generate much profit, however they escalate the brand) but you need certain cars to be successful in the long run..if you have someone up top making the decisions based on only immediate profitability..you wont get those decisions that need to happen

He had the opportunity to roll out the Sixteen as the XTS and went with a warmed over DTS design. Maybe it's time you guys give the whole obtuse angle thing a rest.

n!ght r!der · 03-02-2010, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leolee

pt's and hhr are hideous in my opinion

but wasnt lutz the one responsible for the camaro?

Chrysler is done with the PT in 2012

tmurphycardesign · 03-02-2010, 04:13 PM

the xts is not the sixteen...and this proves my point.....in design..WE wanted to do the sixteen, WE wanted a proper rearwheel drive flagship, and WE proposed a final design... and guess what? it was shot down...why because the beancounters and people up in the cadillac mangament positions looked at the books, looked at the profit sheets and decided a flagship sedan over the epsilon platform (ie the malibu, lacrosse, insignia etc.) would be more profitable...so design took what we were given, and you cant do a rearwheel design over a proportion like that...and so, we have the xts...and in my opinion with what the designers were given (the platform and its frontwheel drive proportion) i think they made a pretty good looking car....whether u like the current design aeshtetic of cadillac is completly subjective.....

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tmurphycardesign Tmurphycardesign Drives: 17 ss 1LE arctic blue Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: michigan Posts: 110 View My Garage	GM Announces New North American Leadership Team DETROIT, March 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Enhanced focus on customer and dealer support GM North America business unit strengthened Separate organizations created for sales and marketing General Motors today announced a restructured North American organization with a number of key leadership changes. Intense Focus on the Customer GM North America is focused on strengthening consideration for the company's brands and products, shifting from a combined sales and marketing organization to one that enables the company to engage experts in each respective role. With a flatter structure, accountability is elevated to the highest level. "It's become extremely clear to me since taking this role that there is a better way to structure this organization," said Mark Reuss, GM North America president. "The premise of the structure is simple -- a clearer marketing focus to sell more vehicles, and freeing our sales and service experts to focus on customers and dealers. "In order to be successful in North America, we need the right mix of product, people and structure," Reuss continued, "We've worked with a small group of executives to align this model and appoint the best candidates for each job." All appointments are effective immediately. Marketing Organization As the single point for marketing, Susan Docherty is appointed vice president, U.S. marketing, reporting to Reuss. Senior executives reporting to Docherty, responsible for the marketing of their respective brands include: Jim Campbell, U.S. marketing vice president, Chevrolet; Don Butler, U.S. marketing vice president, Cadillac. Butler rejoins the company from INRIX; and, John Schwegman, U.S. marketing vice president, Buick-GMC. Schwegman was most recently Chevrolet product marketing director. Sales Organization Reinforcing the company's intense focus on the customer, sales leaders for the brands also reporting directly to Reuss include: Alan Batey, vice president, sales and service, Chevrolet. Batey was most recently president and managing director of GM's Holden operations in Australia. A replacement for Batey will be named at a later date; Brian Sweeney remains with the Buick-GMC as U.S. sales and service vice president; Kurt McNeil, U.S. sales and service vice president, Cadillac. McNeil was previously general sales manager, Chevrolet. A leader in design, Bryan Nesbitt is leaving Cadillac and returning to his home organization as executive director, advanced concept group, reporting to Ed Welburn, vice president, global design. Reporting to Reuss, Steve Carlisle is appointed vice president, U.S. sales operations, responsible for dealer network, retail sales support and fleet & commercial. Carlisle was most recently executive director, GM South East Asia Operations, and president, managing director, GM Thailand. Carlisle will be replaced by Martin Apfel, who will report to Tim Lee, president of GM International Operations. Apfel was most recently executive director of global manufacturing and planning. Senior executives reporting to Carlisle, responsible for their respective functions include: Jim Bunnell, general director, network support; and Brian Small, general manager, fleet & commercial; A general manager, retail sales support will be named at a later date. "This structure has been developed with as few layers as possible between me, the dealer and the customer," said Reuss. "By removing layers and giving leaders increased accountability, we allow them to move faster and focus on what needs to be done." Other Key North American Organizations In addition to direct lines for marketing and sales, the following key North American organizations will report directly to Reuss. New appointments include: Chris Preuss, vice president and president, OnStar. Preuss was most recently vice president, Communications, reporting to Ed Whitacre. Preuss succeeds Walt Dorfstatter, who will assume an executive director role in global product operations. A replacement for Preuss will be named at a later date; Kevin Williams, president and managing director, GM Canada. Most recently, Williams was responsible for leading service & parts operations (SPO). He succeeds Arturo Elias, who will take a position in the company's public policy center, reporting to John Montford, senior advisor, public policy; Steve Hill, general manager, GM customer care and aftersales. Most recently Hill was general manager, retail sales support. The following executives continue in their current positions: Grace Lieblein, president and managing director, GM de Mexico; Diana Tremblay, vice president, manufacturing and labor relations; and Chuck Stevens, chief financial officer for North America. Mary Sipes returns to portfolio planning as executive director, North American product planning,a key interface to the global engineering and product development organizations. In this position, she reports to Jon Lauckner, vice president global product planning. Sipes was previously executive director, corporate planning. The North American team is also supported with executives from key functions including human resources, legal, information technology, and communications. "This is my team. Leaders with exceptional talent from around the world, combined with strategic thinking from outside. They are the right team for GM North America now, hand-picked and put in place to win," concluded Reuss. About General Motors: General Motors, one of the world's largest automakers, traces its roots back to 1908. With its global headquarters in Detroit, GM employs 204,000 people in every major region of the world and does business in some 140 countries. GM and its strategic partners produce cars and trucks in 34 countries, and sell and service these vehicles through the following brands: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling. GM's largest national market is the United States, followed by China, Brazil, Germany, the United Kingdom, Canada, and Italy. GM's OnStar subsidiary is the industry leader in vehicle safety, security and information services. General Motors acquired operations from General Motors Corporation on July 10, 2009, and references to prior periods in this and other press materials refer to operations of the old General Motors Corporation. More information on the new General Motors can be found at www.gm.com. SOURCE General Motors

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03-02-2010, 09:41 AM	#3
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,275	Good.

03-02-2010, 11:00 AM	#4
Leolee Drives: camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: us Posts: 852 View My Garage	pt's and hhr are hideous in my opinion but wasnt lutz the one responsible for the camaro?

03-02-2010, 12:51 PM	#5
tmurphycardesign Tmurphycardesign Drives: 17 ss 1LE arctic blue Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: michigan Posts: 110 View My Garage	as far as us designers in cadillac...we are none to happy about this.. when nesbitt was promoted to his position as cadillac general manager, we all felt this was huge plus for design and such. The people who are usually assigned to those positions usually are very disconnected to design and have more of a marketing / buisness make. Having someone in that position based from design really would have allowed more decisions that would have helped the overall design and pushed what the image of cadillac should be in the form of its cars, and brand image.....it takes someone with design knowledge to understand sometimes building the right car wont look great in the books, (examples, audi a8, bmw 7 series, these cars do not generate much profit, however they escalate the brand) but you need certain cars to be successful in the long run..if you have someone up top making the decisions based on only immediate profitability..you wont get those decisions that need to happen

03-02-2010, 04:13 PM	#14
tmurphycardesign Tmurphycardesign Drives: 17 ss 1LE arctic blue Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: michigan Posts: 110 View My Garage	the xts is not the sixteen...and this proves my point.....in design..WE wanted to do the sixteen, WE wanted a proper rearwheel drive flagship, and WE proposed a final design... and guess what? it was shot down...why because the beancounters and people up in the cadillac mangament positions looked at the books, looked at the profit sheets and decided a flagship sedan over the epsilon platform (ie the malibu, lacrosse, insignia etc.) would be more profitable...so design took what we were given, and you cant do a rearwheel design over a proportion like that...and so, we have the xts...and in my opinion with what the designers were given (the platform and its frontwheel drive proportion) i think they made a pretty good looking car....whether u like the current design aeshtetic of cadillac is completly subjective.....