More tales of Toyota's long running Safety issues

UCF w00t · 02-10-2010, 01:25 PM

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On Jan. 19, in a closed-door meeting in Washington, D.C., two top executives from Toyota Motor Corp. gave American regulators surprising news.

Evidence had been mounting for years that Toyota cars could speed up suddenly, a factor suspected in crashes causing more than a dozen deaths. Toyota had blamed the problem on floor mats pinning the gas pedal. Now, the two Toyota men revealed they knew of a problem in its gas pedals.

The two top officials from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration "were steamed," according to a person who discussed the meeting with both sides. As the meeting closed, NHTSA chief David Strickland hinted at using the agency's full authority, which can include subpoenas, fines, and even forcing auto makers to stop selling cars.

Toyota had known about the gas-pedal problem for more than a year. Its silence with U.S. regulators, and other newly uncovered details from the crisis enveloping Toyota, reveal a growing rift between the Japanese auto maker and NHTSA, one of its top regulators. Regulators came to doubt Toyota's commitment to addressing safety defects, according to interviews with federal officials and industry executives, and accounts of Toyota and NHTSA interactions the past year.

WSJ

And from MSNBC...

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The complacency that brought General Motors, Ford and Chrysler to their knees seems to have infected Toyota, too.

The Japanese automaker's products have been a quality byword for American drivers, so much so that its management and manufacturing techniques have long been studied and copied by rivals in the United States and abroad.

Evidence has been building for years, however, that Toyota may have sacrificed its reputation for excellence to the quest for market share and that, in its smugness, it may have ignored its customers and its own management principles.

MSNBC

Gmorgan · 02-10-2010, 01:36 PM

Wow, this is a huge mess for Toyota! So glad that no one in my family has one right now. I can't imagine how long it will take them to pull themselves out of this publicity nightmare. Can't imagine Toyota stock will be worth much for a while...

PAUL SS · 02-10-2010, 01:58 PM

And now a problem with 2009-2010 Corolla electric power steering has surfaced. Oh brother.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-10-2010, 02:59 PM

I've lost count. Exactly which toyota vehicles aren't under recall?

boxmonkeyracing · 02-10-2010, 03:03 PM

haven't heard of a recall for the FJ cruisers.

UCF w00t · 02-10-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I've lost count. Exactly which toyota vehicles aren't under recall?

None.

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

haven't heard of a recall for the FJ cruisers.

except the FJ cruiser apparently

TommyTSquared · 02-10-2010, 03:22 PM

Was just going to post what the WSJ had. Read the article during class, and it's pretty sad what's been going on.

PQ · 02-10-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I've lost count. Exactly which toyota vehicles aren't under recall?

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Originally Posted by UCF w00t

None.

I'm starting to get concerned about Bonnie and her Lexus.

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Originally Posted by TommyTSquared

Was just going to post what the WSJ had. Read the article during class, and it's pretty sad what's been going on.

More studying and less goofing off mister. lmao

Rallysport · 02-10-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I've lost count. Exactly which toyota vehicles aren't under recall?

The way it's going, it will be easier to count the toyota models NOT under a recall than those ACTUALLY recalled. I hear Hollywood is considering making a movie about toyota's problems...rumor has it the movie will be titled: TOTAL RECALLS....starring Arnold Shwarzenegger.

Angrybird 12 · 02-10-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rallysport

The way it's going, it will be easier to count the toyota models NOT under a recall than those ACTUALLY recalled. I hear Hollywood is considering making a movie about toyota's problems...rumor has it the movie will be titled: TOTAL RECALLS....starring Arnold Shwarzenegger.

yeah Arnold will line all the recalled Toyotas up and mash them with his Hummer...

Angrybird 12 · 02-10-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

haven't heard of a recall for the FJ cruisers.

Yet......Give em time...

boxmonkeyracing · 02-10-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Yet......Give em time...

I'm going to leave this completely alone before I say something to really get me in trouble with the woman. . .

TommyTSquared · 02-10-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

I'm starting to get concerned about Bonnie and her Lexus.

More studying and less goofing off mister. lmao

It is my LAST semester with nothing but programming projects (which are easy peasy). If I want to have some shots in between class I WILL THANK YOU!

I mean uh... yeah

Brokinarrow · 02-10-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyTSquared

It is my LAST semester with nothing but programming projects (which are easy peasy). If I want to have some shots in between class I WILL THANK YOU!

I mean uh... yeah

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TommyTSquared Drives: RSSS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 2,492	Was just going to post what the WSJ had. Read the article during class, and it's pretty sad what's been going on.