Dealers have BALLS.

Staves · 08-23-2021, 02:03 PM

Helping my friend look for a new Kia Forte GT-Line. One dealer had it $3K off with dealer discount/rebate. Other one had $1K rebate only.

BOTH dealers had add-on fees of $1800 (scotch guard, sealant, alarm,....all the garbage that cost them $100). I told them wasn't paying for any of that and they said if you come in, we could discount it...blah, blah. I wouldn't pay a dime for that crap I didn't ask for. My SS had no dealer installed options.

Just can't believe the balls of dealers to put nearly $2K of rip-off fees onto the price and think people won't bark. Are people really just paying for this crap?

clg82 · 08-23-2021, 02:09 PM

I can't blame them, some people actually pay it thinking they have to. When we purchased my wifes grand cherokee it had "low jack" "paint sealant" "GPS finder" blah blah blah, I told them i didn't want any of that so don't charge me for it. They said "we have too it's already installed" finance manager came out, i told him I don't want those options, they took it off the price and we bought the car. Why pay for something you don't want? Makes no sense.

UnknownJinX · 08-23-2021, 02:34 PM

Given the chip shortage right now, this is really nothing.

Staves · 08-23-2021, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

Given the chip shortage right now, this is really nothing.

Ummm ok.

STYLO LT1 · 08-23-2021, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Staves

Helping my friend look for a new Kia Forte GT-Line. One dealer had it $3K off with dealer discount/rebate. Other one had $1K rebate only.

BOTH dealers had add-on fees of $1800 (scotch guard, sealant, alarm,....all the garbage that cost them $100). I told them wasn't paying for any of that and they said if you come in, we could discount it...blah, blah. I wouldn't pay a dime for that crap I didn't ask for. My SS had no dealer installed options.

Just can't believe the balls of dealers to put nearly $2K of rip-off fees onto the price and think people won't bark. Are people really just paying for this crap?

BIG ONES AT THAT!!

They all do it though.

BMR Sales · 08-23-2021, 03:49 PM

it's done all the time and I would bet that over 90% fall for it!

I special ordered a car once with Cloth seats ( Florida & Leather don't mix ), car came in with Leather. Told I wasn't paying for it, they gave it to me and I made money on the Leather Seats

Eric10905 · 08-23-2021, 04:27 PM

They have a term for it, that i forget. basically dealer profit, to provide a new point to negotiate from. $1800 is pretty light these days, as someone else noted. We were looking for a new suv before the chip shortage. the Kia telluride was (is) really hot - dealers in my area had the same sort of options listed for $5k above list. And had no desire to even talk about discount. i guess some people were paying it....
It's even higher if you try to buy the new gt500, or one of those shelby super snake trucks, lol

clg82 · 08-23-2021, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric10905

They have a term for it, that i forget. basically dealer profit, to provide a new point to negotiate from. $1800 is pretty light these days, as someone else noted. We were looking for a new suv before the chip shortage. the Kia telluride was (is) really hot - dealers in my area had the same sort of options listed for $5k above list. And had no desire to even talk about discount. i guess some people were paying it....
It's even higher if you try to buy the new gt500, or one of those shelby super snake trucks, lol

Don’t get me started with this….neighbor bought his at 6 figures!!! I bought my ZL1 after him and after a few modifications I’ll be running right there with him and i didn’t pay $30,000 OVER asking because of dealer markups. I’m not a diehard Chevy guy but there is no way I’d pay 6 figures for a mustang unless it was a Ford GT.

gtfoxy · 08-23-2021, 06:15 PM

Friends don’t help friends buy Kias.

It’s like helping them hook up with the bar fly you know has herpaghonasyphalaids.

2SS Capt · 08-23-2021, 06:22 PM

That's not as bad as one guy on here who was looking at a 2SS and the dealer had the standard SS Spoiler listed as a $795 option!!! https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596154

UnknownJinX · 08-23-2021, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Staves

Ummm ok.

Didn't say I'd stand it, just saying it's really nothing surprising.

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Originally Posted by gtfoxy

Friends don’t help friends buy Kias.

It’s like helping them hook up with the bar fly you know has herpaghonasyphalaids.

The Stinger genuinely isn't that bad. I mean, it really suffers the same problem Camaro SS does when you compare a Camaro SS to some of the German elites: the Camaro has a Chevy badge, not a BMW/Mercedes/Audi/Porsche badge.

That said, I think you could probably get a CT5-V(not Blackwing) for about the same money as a Stinger so...

TenTwo · 08-23-2021, 07:18 PM

I just sold my Stinger to get into a Camaro. Stingers are awesome sports sedans, but it's no V8

crosive · 08-23-2021, 07:22 PM

my last visit to a kia dealership, every car had atleast $1400 "adm", and the few stingers they had, had $2800 "adm", on top of $399 for nitrogen in the tires...

sandm · 08-23-2021, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Staves

Just can't believe the balls of dealers to put nearly $2K of rip-off fees onto the price and think people won't bark. Are people really just paying for this crap?

we were shopping everywhere for a 'maro back in may. almost every dealer we called in cali had bs add on crap. worst was STG auto group. theirs was the highest price. finally found the car at HB mazda. price was the price. no add on bs. no hard sell for dealer addons. handed them a cashiers check for the advertised price and ONLY add on was $100 doc fee and out the door we went. best experience ever.

we actually paid for part of the deal with cash and it was kinda funny watching him scrounge thru his drawers for the $.38 in change he owed us from the $2100 in cash we gave

08-23-2021, 02:03 PM	#1
Staves Drives: women crazy Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: CA Posts: 698	Dealers have BALLS. Helping my friend look for a new Kia Forte GT-Line. One dealer had it $3K off with dealer discount/rebate. Other one had $1K rebate only. BOTH dealers had add-on fees of $1800 (scotch guard, sealant, alarm,....all the garbage that cost them $100). I told them wasn't paying for any of that and they said if you come in, we could discount it...blah, blah. I wouldn't pay a dime for that crap I didn't ask for. My SS had no dealer installed options. Just can't believe the balls of dealers to put nearly $2K of rip-off fees onto the price and think people won't bark. Are people really just paying for this crap? __________________ ‘19 1SS A10, Borla S-type Non-NPP-SOLD

08-23-2021, 02:34 PM	#3
UnknownJinX Drives: 19 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE Shock Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,947	Given the chip shortage right now, this is really nothing. __________________ Current: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE M6 Shock GM Performance Intake and that's it, because driver mods before car mods Past: 2009 Mazda RX-8 GT M6 Velocity Red Mica (Sold) 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 2LT M7 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat (Flood totaled)

08-23-2021, 06:22 PM	#10
2SS Capt 2020 Shadow Gray 2SS Drives: 2020 2SS - A10, NPP, MRC, CAI Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,815	That's not as bad as one guy on here who was looking at a 2SS and the dealer had the standard SS Spoiler listed as a $795 option!!! https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596154 __________________ 2020 SGM 2SS - A10, NPP, MRC, Red Calipers, Black Fender Badge, Footwell Lighting *After delivery:* - GMP CAI, GMP Black Strut Tower Brace, MRR017 1LE Wheels, SS Armrest, Black Fuel Door, Stainless Pedals, SS Wheel Caps, GM Splash Guards, DD Smoked LED Markers, Smoked Rear Reflectors, Mishimoto Catch Can, Xpel PPF-Full Front & Rockers, 35% Tint, CeramicPro coated, RST Stainless Brake Lines, Castrol SRF, MSD Plug Wires, Mamo V3 Ported TB *Left: My "fun" ride (475 HP). Right: My "work" ride (52,000 HP): a Gulfstream G600. One's top speed is 180 Mph, the other, 620 Mph. BOTH AWESOME to operate...*

08-23-2021, 02:09 PM	#2
clg82 Banned Drives: 2020 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Texas Posts: 1,724	I can't blame them, some people actually pay it thinking they have to. When we purchased my wifes grand cherokee it had "low jack" "paint sealant" "GPS finder" blah blah blah, I told them i didn't want any of that so don't charge me for it. They said "we have too it's already installed" finance manager came out, i told him I don't want those options, they took it off the price and we bought the car. Why pay for something you don't want? Makes no sense.

08-23-2021, 03:49 PM	#6
BMR Sales Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seffner, FL Posts: 6,226	it's done all the time and I would bet that over 90% fall for it! I special ordered a car once with Cloth seats ( Florida & Leather don't mix ), car came in with Leather. Told I wasn't paying for it, they gave it to me and I made money on the Leather Seats

08-23-2021, 04:27 PM	#7
Eric10905 Geezer_loves_Camaros Drives: 2018 2SS, Black, A8 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Austin Posts: 241	They have a term for it, that i forget. basically dealer profit, to provide a new point to negotiate from. $1800 is pretty light these days, as someone else noted. We were looking for a new suv before the chip shortage. the Kia telluride was (is) really hot - dealers in my area had the same sort of options listed for $5k above list. And had no desire to even talk about discount. i guess some people were paying it.... It's even higher if you try to buy the new gt500, or one of those shelby super snake trucks, lol

08-23-2021, 06:15 PM	#9
gtfoxy Account Suspended Drives: '21 Wild Cherry ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: WI Posts: 2,082	Friends don’t help friends buy Kias. It’s like helping them hook up with the bar fly you know has herpaghonasyphalaids.

08-23-2021, 07:18 PM	#12
TenTwo Drives: Chevy Camaro LT1 Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: KS Posts: 35	I just sold my Stinger to get into a Camaro. Stingers are awesome sports sedans, but it's no V8

08-23-2021, 07:22 PM	#13
crosive Drives: 18 zl1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: central alabama Posts: 935	my last visit to a kia dealership, every car had atleast $1400 "adm", and the few stingers they had, had $2800 "adm", on top of $399 for nitrogen in the tires...