Seat collapse deaths.

Dizzy82 · 10-29-2015, 12:07 AM

I don't have backseat passangers, but for those who do this is an eye opener.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/are-ca...t-back-danger/

c5Legend · 10-29-2015, 05:14 PM

Scary and some sad stories in the video. Was there anything about putting the child in the middle seat? (thats what I do now)

Dizzy82 · 10-29-2015, 05:25 PM

I do wonder if our seats would break in a rear end collision.

motorhead · 10-29-2015, 06:53 PM

What I love is that is takes the law or the government to make manufacturers do what they damn well know they should be doing without a certain law or standard. I guess they figure money is worth more than a child'support life. Meanwhile, they give us stupid features, that probably cost more to develop than making a seat stronger, that only works half ass.

How can a 1960 safety standard still be the standard today?

ZYBORG · 10-29-2015, 07:01 PM

I find this sad. Dont want to chance the seat breaking and possibly causing injury?

Pretty simple, dont get into a major traffic accident.

Seems like everyone else is to blame for one's mistakes. This is as bad as the Paul Walker lawsuit against Porsche.

motorhead · 10-29-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

I find this sad. Dont want to chance the seat breaking and possibly causing injury?

Pretty simple, dont get into a major traffic accident.

Seems like everyone else is to blame for one's mistakes. This is as bad as the Paul Walker lawsuit against Porsche.

Are you crazy or something? Most rear end collisions aren't the fault of the person that got rear ended. So how is that "one's mistake". A seat shouldn't brake with a 30 to 55mph impact where many of these deaths happened.

That'said totally different than what happen to Paul Walker. Not even in the same planet as being the same

ZYBORG · 10-29-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Are you crazy or something? Most rear end collisions aren't the fault of the person that got rear ended. So how is that "one's mistake". A seat shouldn't brake with a 30 to 55mph impact where many of these deaths happened.

That'said totally different than what happen to Paul Walker. Not even in the same planet as being the same

Me crazy?

And you are the one looking to blame the manufacturer for SOMEONE ELSE rear-ending you? Lol, say it isnt so...

Dizzy82 · 10-29-2015, 07:39 PM

So the manufacturers who know this to be an issue, yet choose not to fix it, instead rely on a very old standard are not to blame for a failure? And if you didn't catch it, more people have been injured/killed by this problem than by the Takata air bag recall.

motorhead · 10-29-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

Me crazy?

And you are the one looking to blame the manufacturer for SOMEONE ELSE rear-ending you? Lol, say it isnt so...

Not at all, I blame them for a seat breaking that shouldn't.

To use a 1960 safety standard, and have countless data that shows a real problem is just plain irresponsible.

I know what you're saying in this world of passing responsibility, but on the other hand manufacturers have a responsibility themselves to the people they are selling products to make them safe. Volvo and BMW get it. If anything they should do it for the selling point if nothing else.

This isn't the same as spilling hot coffee on one's self and then suing the place that sold it you.

motorhead · 10-29-2015, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dizzy82

So the manufacturers who know this to be an issue, yet choose not to fix it, instead rely on a very old standard are not to blame for a failure? And if you didn't catch it, more people have been injured/killed by this problem than by the Takata air bag recall.

You got it all wrong. According to Zyborg, you are to never get into an accident that would require the use of the airbags. Then you won't get shrapnel sprayed at your face. Not Takata's fault. What's wrong with you for suggesting such a notion?

ZYBORG · 10-29-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

You got it all wrong. According to Zyborg, you are to never get into an accident that would require the use of the airbags. Then you won't get shrapnel sprayed at your face. Not Takata's fault. What's wrong with you for suggesting such a notion?

You dont seem to be able to differentiate between an airbag that actually shoots projectiles (who's sole purpose is to protect) and a seat that gets broken as a result of impact.

You need to sell your camarodeathtrap and roll around in a bubble... Lol

ZYBORG · 10-29-2015, 08:10 PM

Hey motorhead,

You should be happy to know that based on the incredible knowledge you have shared. I have decided to sue Nike. I recently rolled my ankle. Grade 2 sprain. They should have designed my sneakers with more stability and safety in mind. Should they not had a design that dates back to the 60's, I might have been able to keep my ankle intact.

Can you beleive those assholes?

Maybe I should sue the city too. Had they designed their sidewalks with more safety in mind, the uneven surface that aided in my accident, would have never been there.

Thanks a lot OBAMA!

motorhead · 10-29-2015, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

You dont seem to be able to differentiate between an airbag that actually shoots projectiles (who's sole purpose is to protect) and a seat that gets broken as a result of impact.

You need to sell your camarodeathtrap and roll around in a bubble... Lol

Look in the mirror. That's the person that doesnt get it. It's exactly the same thing. I can't help you if you don't see it. A defective seat is no different than a defective airbag. But, as you already said, people don't need any safety built into a car if they would just avoid getting into accidents. That was a guenius statement. Why haven't manufacturers and regulators thought of that one? Think of the billions that could have been saved if only people would just do the simple task of avoiding any accident. Good job?

You are full of win.

Edit: as far as your ankle, it's not Nike's or your cities fault that you can't walk/run or look were you are going. You're Nikes also don't have an implied
Safety rating against rolling your ankle. If they did, would have a case.

ZYBORG · 10-29-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Look in the mirror. That's the person that doesnt get it. It's exactly the same thing. I can't help you if you don't see it. A defective seat is no different than a defective airbag. But, as you already said, people don't need any safety built into a car if they would just avoid getting into accidents. That was a guenius statement. Why haven't manufacturers and regulators thought of that one? Think of the billions that could have been saved if only people would just do the simple task of avoiding any accident. Good job?

You are full of win.

Oh lawd! The irony...

10-29-2015, 12:07 AM	#1
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Dizzy82 Drives: 2011 1LT/RS A6 RJT SuperCharged Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 87114 Posts: 3,501 View My Garage	I do wonder if our seats would break in a rear end collision. __________________ Power is worthless without control. *The 2nd* protects the 1st.** BMR sub frame brace, BMR tunnel brace, LSR sways, LSR CM ca & tl, Sphon ExD el, GM tower brace, Megan EZ Streets, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided brake lines, PowerStop D/S rotors & pads, Doug Thorty Ceramic Shorties, Magnaflow x-pipe, MRT V2.0, KICKER PowerStage sub & amp, Infinity speakers & tweeters, Viteese Throttle Controller, Viteese Paddle Shifters, ACS T2 Splitter, ACS T2 Ports/Quad LED lights, VDI kit, Havoc diffuser, IPF ECU/TRANS tuned, IPF/KPE Supercharged. 364RWHP/297RWTQ

10-29-2015, 07:01 PM	#5
ZYBORG Lets roll... Drives: 14' Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: TX/S.FL Posts: 1,495	I find this sad. Dont want to chance the seat breaking and possibly causing injury? Pretty simple, dont get into a major traffic accident. Seems like everyone else is to blame for one's mistakes. This is as bad as the Paul Walker lawsuit against Porsche. __________________

10-29-2015, 07:39 PM	#8
Dizzy82 Drives: 2011 1LT/RS A6 RJT SuperCharged Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 87114 Posts: 3,501 View My Garage	So the manufacturers who know this to be an issue, yet choose not to fix it, instead rely on a very old standard are not to blame for a failure? And if you didn't catch it, more people have been injured/killed by this problem than by the Takata air bag recall. __________________ Power is worthless without control. *The 2nd* protects the 1st.** BMR sub frame brace, BMR tunnel brace, LSR sways, LSR CM ca & tl, Sphon ExD el, GM tower brace, Megan EZ Streets, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided brake lines, PowerStop D/S rotors & pads, Doug Thorty Ceramic Shorties, Magnaflow x-pipe, MRT V2.0, KICKER PowerStage sub & amp, Infinity speakers & tweeters, Viteese Throttle Controller, Viteese Paddle Shifters, ACS T2 Splitter, ACS T2 Ports/Quad LED lights, VDI kit, Havoc diffuser, IPF ECU/TRANS tuned, IPF/KPE Supercharged. 364RWHP/297RWTQ

10-29-2015, 06:53 PM	#4
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	What I love is that is takes the law or the government to make manufacturers do what they damn well know they should be doing without a certain law or standard. I guess they figure money is worth more than a child'support life. Meanwhile, they give us stupid features, that probably cost more to develop than making a seat stronger, that only works half ass. How can a 1960 safety standard still be the standard today?

10-29-2015, 08:10 PM	#12
ZYBORG Lets roll... Drives: 14' Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: TX/S.FL Posts: 1,495	Hey motorhead, You should be happy to know that based on the incredible knowledge you have shared. I have decided to sue Nike. I recently rolled my ankle. Grade 2 sprain. They should have designed my sneakers with more stability and safety in mind. Should they not had a design that dates back to the 60's, I might have been able to keep my ankle intact. Can you beleive those assholes? Maybe I should sue the city too. Had they designed their sidewalks with more safety in mind, the uneven surface that aided in my accident, would have never been there. Thanks a lot OBAMA! __________________