Need help with a friends Dodge 4x4

dcoates18481 · 02-09-2013, 07:25 AM

Here's the story:
He had the engine built and the builder said he needed a 2800 stall converter for optimum performance.
Now when he drives it he says It just doesn't run the same, no power.
Daily driver, Some mudding.

Heres whats in it.
97 Dodge Ram 4x4
408
24#injectors
218/224 528/536 114 cam
52mm T/B
4.10 gears
auto trans
2800 stall
35" tires

he believes it all started when they changed to the stall converter.

any suggestions are appreciated.

05stram · 02-09-2013, 07:40 AM

Actually that cam starts making power at 1500 RPM he has already lost 1300 RPMs. That is a common cam for strokers and the engine builder is an idiot. I also thought that cam only offered 112 degrees of seperation?

If that is a Competition Cams cam get on the phone with them I believe he has the wrong stall and another question did he change his fuel pump as well? Would help a little with the cam and injector install the 96/97 trucks did not have the juice to maintain demand in a hot setup.

dcoates18481 · 02-09-2013, 01:10 PM

Any more suggestions?

dcoates18481 · 02-09-2013, 04:04 PM

truck does have upgraded fuel pump...
any recommendations on a converter
back to stock?

05stram · 02-09-2013, 10:25 PM

I would go back to stock that is supposed to be the cam that runs the upper limits of the stock converter. What can it hurt to give it a run until he can sell the stall and get a beefier one built to handle the range of the cam. Like I suggested the cam manufacturer will offer the best advice on which RPM range he is shooting for - one thing you have to consider is the transfer case ratio and they have all that information from past installs.

02-09-2013, 07:25 AM	#1
dcoates18481 Drives: 2010 CAMARO RALLY YELLOW SS/RS/M6 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aransas Pass Texas Posts: 565 View My Garage	Need help with a friends Dodge 4x4 Here's the story: He had the engine built and the builder said he needed a 2800 stall converter for optimum performance. Now when he drives it he says It just doesn't run the same, no power. Daily driver, Some mudding. Heres whats in it. 97 Dodge Ram 4x4 408 24#injectors 218/224 528/536 114 cam 52mm T/B 4.10 gears auto trans 2800 stall 35" tires he believes it all started when they changed to the stall converter. any suggestions are appreciated. __________________ I LIKE TO GO FAST! Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam Kit, Melling oil pump, C5R Timing Chain, Dyno Tuned by Shawn@Lethal Racing, Vararam Tuned intake, Vararam Power Wedge, LSR Tri Ax Short throw Shifter, VMAX Ported T/B, TSP 2" L/T Headers, TSP Cat delete, Borla axle back exhaust, Innovate A/F monitor, 471.7 HP/438.8 TQ

02-09-2013, 01:10 PM	#3
dcoates18481 Drives: 2010 CAMARO RALLY YELLOW SS/RS/M6 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aransas Pass Texas Posts: 565 View My Garage	Any more suggestions? __________________ I LIKE TO GO FAST! Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam Kit, Melling oil pump, C5R Timing Chain, Dyno Tuned by Shawn@Lethal Racing, Vararam Tuned intake, Vararam Power Wedge, LSR Tri Ax Short throw Shifter, VMAX Ported T/B, TSP 2" L/T Headers, TSP Cat delete, Borla axle back exhaust, Innovate A/F monitor, 471.7 HP/438.8 TQ

02-09-2013, 04:04 PM	#4
dcoates18481 Drives: 2010 CAMARO RALLY YELLOW SS/RS/M6 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aransas Pass Texas Posts: 565 View My Garage	truck does have upgraded fuel pump... any recommendations on a converter back to stock? __________________ I LIKE TO GO FAST! Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam Kit, Melling oil pump, C5R Timing Chain, Dyno Tuned by Shawn@Lethal Racing, Vararam Tuned intake, Vararam Power Wedge, LSR Tri Ax Short throw Shifter, VMAX Ported T/B, TSP 2" L/T Headers, TSP Cat delete, Borla axle back exhaust, Innovate A/F monitor, 471.7 HP/438.8 TQ

02-09-2013, 07:40 AM	#2
05stram Drives: 2013 RS - 2013 2SS/RS - 1971 RS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,027	Actually that cam starts making power at 1500 RPM he has already lost 1300 RPMs. That is a common cam for strokers and the engine builder is an idiot. I also thought that cam only offered 112 degrees of seperation? If that is a Competition Cams cam get on the phone with them I believe he has the wrong stall and another question did he change his fuel pump as well? Would help a little with the cam and injector install the 96/97 trucks did not have the juice to maintain demand in a hot setup.

02-09-2013, 10:25 PM	#5
05stram Drives: 2013 RS - 2013 2SS/RS - 1971 RS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,027	I would go back to stock that is supposed to be the cam that runs the upper limits of the stock converter. What can it hurt to give it a run until he can sell the stall and get a beefier one built to handle the range of the cam. Like I suggested the cam manufacturer will offer the best advice on which RPM range he is shooting for - one thing you have to consider is the transfer case ratio and they have all that information from past installs.