Fiat in talks with GM now..

[Zabo]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30547564/

ROME - Fiat Group SpA confirmed Sunday it was in talks to acquire General Motor’s European operations with the aim of possibly creating a new company to also include its newly acquired Chrysler automaker.

Combined, the new automaker would have euro80 billion ($105 billion) in annual revenues, Fiat said in a statement.

Fiat said it was evaluating the possible spinoff of its auto business to form the core of the new company. Fiat Group Automobiles includes the Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari brands.
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The statement was issued on the eve of a meeting in Berlin between Fiat Group CEO Sergio Marchionne and the German economy and foreign ministers to discuss Fiat’s offer for GM’s German unit, Opel.

GM Europe also includes the British company Vauxhall and the Swedish carmaker Saab.

GM has been trying to find investors for its noncore and unprofitable assets as part of a restructuring in which it has sought billions of dollars in aid from the U.S. government to avert collapse.

Opel has said it needs euro3.3 billion ($4.3 billion) to get through the economic crisis. The German government has said it doesn’t foresee giving direct state aid. Chancellor Angela Merkel has suggested the government could help an Opel investor with loan guarantees.

Fiat said that over the next few weeks, Marchionne will be looking “to assess the viability of a merger of the activities of Fiat Group Automobiles (including the interest in Chrysler) and General Motors Europe into a new company.”

“As part of this process, the group would evaluate several corporate structures, including the potential spinoff of Fiat Group Automobiles and the subsequent listing of a new company which combines those activities with the activities of General Motors Europe.”

In an interview Sunday with Corriere della Sera, Fiat Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo called GM’s Opel an “ideal partner” and a possible takeover by Fiat an “extraordinary opportunity.”

Fiat is not the only suitor for Opel, however. Last week, Canadian car parts maker Magna International Inc. presented German Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg with what the minister called a “rough concept for a commitment with Opel.”

Guttenberg has said the German government would wait to determine its role in any full or partial Opel sale until after the U.S. government had weighed in.

Fiat, meanwhile, has pressed ahead with a takeover of Chrysler, with attorneys for the U.S. auto manufacturer saying the company would file a motion to sell substantially all of its assets to the Italian automaker.

In addition to Fiat Group Automobiles, the Fiat Group also includes its agricultural vehicles branch CNH and its Iveco trucking unit, as well as a media arm.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518760,00.html

ROME — Fiat Group SpA confirmed Sunday that it is in talks to buy most of General Motors Corp.'s European operations, taking another step toward creating a global automotive powerhouse.

Fiat also said it is evaluating the possible spinoff of its auto business to form the core of a new company.

Fiat Group Automobiles includes the Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari brands. In addition, Fiat is in the process of acquiring U.S. automaker Chrysler LLC without putting up any cash.

The new auto company, which according to Fiat would have $105 billion in annual revenue, would put the Italian automaker in markets where it has little or no presence, including North America, traditionally the largest market in the world.

"They're going to be a global powerhouse, I guess. Who would have thought?" asked Erich Merkle, an independent auto industry analyst in Grand Rapids, Mich. "They seem to be on a buying binge right now, looking for cheap and distressed assets like Chrysler and Opel."

The Chrysler deal, which must still be approved by a U.S. bankruptcy court, would be in exchange for giving Chrysler access to Fiat's small-car and engine technology. Chrysler cars and trucks also would be sold by Fiat through its global distribution network.

The deals would make Fiat a big global player, but that might not be the best thing for the Italian automaker, which might be overreaching with the acquisitions, said Merkle.

"This is a lot to take on, quite honestly," Merkle said. "When you start looking at Chrysler, it'll make them a very large automaker, but we've seen that large isn't necessarily indicative of success."

It will take years, Merkle said, for Fiat to gain any synergies by globalizing design, engineering and manufacturing operations with Chrysler and the GM units.

The Fiat statement was issued on the eve of a meeting in Berlin between Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne and the German economy and foreign ministers to discuss Fiat's offer for GM's German unit, Opel.

GM Europe also includes the British company Vauxhall and the Swedish carmaker Saab. Saab may not be included in the deal, however. The company is being reorganized under Swedish law and is likely to be separated from the rest of GM's European operations.

GM Europe spokesman Frank Klaas said the company has several possible investors, which he wouldn't identify, but said, "we are in very good negotiations with them."

GM also makes and sells small Chevrolet-badged cars in Europe that are designed in South Korea by the company's Daewoo unit, and it's unlikely to sell that because that would be GM's only remaining foothold in Europe, Merkle said.

General Motors has been trying to find investors for its noncore and unprofitable assets as part of a restructuring in which it has received $15.4 billion in aid from the U.S. government to avert collapse.

Opel has said it needs $4.3 billion to get through the economic crisis. The German government has said it doesn't foresee giving direct state aid. Chancellor Angela Merkel has suggested the government could help an Opel investor with loan guarantees.

Fiat said that over the next few weeks, Marchionne will be looking "to assess the viability of a merger of the activities of Fiat Group Automobiles (including the interest in Chrysler) and General Motors Europe into a new company."

"As part of this process, the group would evaluate several corporate structures, including the potential spinoff of Fiat Group Automobiles and the subsequent listing of a new company which combines those activities with the activities of General Motors Europe."

In an interview Sunday with Corriere della Sera, Fiat Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo called GM's Opel an "ideal partner" and a possible takeover by Fiat an "extraordinary opportunity."

Fiat is not the only suitor for Opel, however. Last week, Canadian car parts maker Magna International Inc. presented German Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg with what the minister called a "rough concept for a commitment with Opel."

Guttenberg has said the German government would wait to determine its role in any full or partial Opel sale until after the U.S. government had weighed in.

Fiat, meanwhile, has pressed ahead with a takeover of Chrysler. Chrysler is seeking to sell substantially all of its assets to Fiat, but must gain approval from a New York bankruptcy court.

In addition to Fiat Group Automobiles, the Fiat Group also includes its agricultural vehicles branch CNH and its Iveco trucking unit, as well as a media arm.

Yeah.. I think Fiat's grabbing a bit too much all at once.

[2010 SS RS]

Is it just me or does anyone else think Fiat sucks? I guess if you like a pregnant smart car they must be great. If you dispose of them like other trash when you are thru with them...great. If you dont love your cars and enjoy them......great. Get a bike and peddle to work......bunch of enviromental morons.....JMO

[Morepwr]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Is it just me or does anyone else think Fiat sucks? I guess if you like a pregnant smart car they must be great. If you dispose of them like other trash when you are thru with them...great. If you dont love your cars and enjoy them......great. Get a bike and peddle to work......bunch of enviromental morons.....JMO

Agreed. You know fiat stands for Fix It Again Tomorrow right?!

[djsnoflake]

I hope that this sale goes through. GM needs cash and was looking to trim brands, get rid of Opel, Saab and Vauxhaul, then maybe you could bring back my beloved Pontiac?? (Just 3 cars: solstice, G8, and Trans Am!!)

In all seriousness though, good luck with getting big, Fiat. GM got too big for its britches, and look what happened to it. I hope you do a better job.

[Nexus6]

Originally Posted by Morepwr

Agreed. You know fiat stands for Fix It Again Tomorrow right?!

Fix it again TONY

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Is it just me or does anyone else think Fiat sucks? I guess if you like a pregnant smart car they must be great. If you dispose of them like other trash when you are thru with them...great. If you dont love your cars and enjoy them......great. Get a bike and peddle to work......bunch of enviromental morons.....JMO

Uhh...I think Fiat owns Ferrari lol...

[Sierra]

they own ferrari, maseratti and alfa romeo. FIAT is huge in europe.