2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[96MrBass]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Completely agree, I'd rather have a Hellcat than a GT500, and a GT500 over a ZL1.

If all you want is a straight line car for there is something called a COPO.
I mean if you want a Camaro and all.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by 96MrBass

If all you want is a straight line car for there is something called a COPO.
I mean if you want a Camaro and all.

You're missing the point. The copo isn't street legal. The Hellcat will do 10.8 on slicks and then take your family to dinner in comfort that night. A copo can't do that.

[96MrBass]

Originally Posted by motorhead

You're missing the point. The copo isn't street legal. The Hellcat will do 10.8 on slicks and then take your family to dinner in comfort that night. A copo can't do that.

I totally understand I got a buddy with a really comfortable CTS-V that runs 10.7's all street legal.

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by 96MrBass

If all you want is a straight line car for there is something called a COPO.
I mean if you want a Camaro and all.

Oh yeah a stripped out 100k track only car sounds great. Hellcat is street legal and runs 10s.

Originally Posted by motorhead

You're missing the point. The copo isn't street legal. The Hellcat will do 10.8 on slicks and then take your family to dinner in comfort that night. A copo can't do that.

Exactly. I like to balance looks, performance, and comfort as equally as possible. The 5th gen Camaro IMO satisfies all those desires better than any other similarly priced car for around $30k or less. The Hellcat hits all those desires much better than a ZL1 or GT500. Its faster than both, looks better than a GT500 and possibly even the ZL1, and although I've actually never driven any Challenger, I believe numerous owners and reviewers when they say it is more comfortable. Although heavier cars never handle as nimble, they do generally feel more comfortable.

I think Chevy focused too much on road courses with their top of the line Camaro offerings to win favor with reviewers. They wanted to be able to say, "Hey look we build high quality vehicles and professionals agree!" But honestly I think most auto enthusiasts don't really base their purchases off magazine reviews. If we did, we would all be driving slow ass Subaru BRZs.

I think a lot of people didn't get the Challenger because it was really under performing for how much it cost compared to a SS or a GT back when they all came out. As long as the Hellcat comes in at 70k or less they OWN that price bracket.

Find me another brand new car that runs 10s bone stock, looks as good as the Hellcat, and is as generally comfortable. A GTR runs high 10s stock I believe and those are 100k+.

[96MrBass]

Just my opinion but I'm not giving 60k or more for ANY car that's just more less straight line performance when you can buy something like a 5.0 or SS and go just as quick for way less.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by 96MrBass

Just my opinion but I'm not giving 60k or more for ANY car that's just more less straight line performance when you can buy something like a 5.0 or SS and go just as quick for way less.

And you have every right to do so. I just don't know why everyone is claiming that this car will only be a straight line performer. They must have some inside information that hasn't been out yet.

[96MrBass]

Yeah I'm not saying at all that it won't be. I would hope so if it is 60 or more.

[Whos_Drivin]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Oh yeah a stripped out 100k track only car sounds great. Hellcat is street legal and runs 10s.

Exactly. I like to balance looks, performance, and comfort as equally as possible. The 5th gen Camaro IMO satisfies all those desires better than any other similarly priced car for around $30k or less. The Hellcat hits all those desires much better than a ZL1 or GT500. Its faster than both, looks better than a GT500 and possibly even the ZL1, and although I've actually never driven any Challenger, I believe numerous owners and reviewers when they say it is more comfortable. Although heavier cars never handle as nimble, they do generally feel more comfortable.

I think Chevy focused too much on road courses with their top of the line Camaro offerings to win favor with reviewers. They wanted to be able to say, "Hey look we build high quality vehicles and professionals agree!" But honestly I think most auto enthusiasts don't really base their purchases off magazine reviews. If we did, we would all be driving slow ass Subaru BRZs.

I think a lot of people didn't get the Challenger because it was really under performing for how much it cost compared to a SS or a GT back when they all came out. As long as the Hellcat comes in at 70k or less they OWN that price bracket.

Find me another brand new car that runs 10s bone stock, looks as good as the Hellcat, and is as generally comfortable. A GTR runs high 10s stock I believe and those are 100k+.

You're missing the point...GM isn't out there to satisfy auto enthusiasts. They're trying to make money...this is business 101 folks. Anyone who thinks GM isn't building the right car only needs to look at sales figures. That's what they care about, not the 2% of the population that are true enthusiasts.

In the end they are making the cars their target audiences want, again based on sales figures. And guess what, many of their customers do read the articles, especially when we're talking sub $60k vehicles.

Dodge may prove that they've built the 'better' car, but again they're opinion is going to be based on sales, not what anyone individual thinks.

[hockeylover86]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Because when Chevy introduced the ZL1 it was the fastest on the 1/4 mile strip and the track. Ford and Dodge have not replicated that. Incomplete.

Fastest in the 1/4?

The ZL1 to 11/12 GT500 was a mostly a toss-up in the 1/4.

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by hockeylover86

Fastest in the 1/4?



The ZL1 to 11/12 GT500 was a mostly a toss-up in the 1/4.

Hahaha exactly what I was thinking.

In 10 drag races im putting money on the 11/12 GT500 to win the majority.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by 4VFTW

enough with the burnouts already....any rear wheel drive car with 175+HP can do them...let some average Joes run them down the quarter or for the ILE,Z28,ZL1 crowd, run one around a road corse.

Wow really?? Way to handicap the Hell Cat there buddy.

I guess by any means to put the hell cat at a disadvantage.


I cant wait to see the BUTTHURT when/if the HellCat bests the ZL1/GT500 on the road course by .150 seconds.

Its gonna be "oh its only .150 seconds faster with all that HP" when in reality those same ppl were saying it had no chance at all even with that 707hp.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Oh yeah a stripped out 100k track only car sounds great. Hellcat is street legal and runs 10s.

Exactly. I like to balance looks, performance, and comfort as equally as possible. The 5th gen Camaro IMO satisfies all those desires better than any other similarly priced car for around $30k or less. The Hellcat hits all those desires much better than a ZL1 or GT500. Its faster than both, looks better than a GT500 and possibly even the ZL1, and although I've actually never driven any Challenger, I believe numerous owners and reviewers when they say it is more comfortable. Although heavier cars never handle as nimble, they do generally feel more comfortable.

I think Chevy focused too much on road courses with their top of the line Camaro offerings to win favor with reviewers. They wanted to be able to say, "Hey look we build high quality vehicles and professionals agree!" But honestly I think most auto enthusiasts don't really base their purchases off magazine reviews. If we did, we would all be driving slow ass Subaru BRZs.

I think a lot of people didn't get the Challenger because it was really under performing for how much it cost compared to a SS or a GT back when they all came out. As long as the Hellcat comes in at 70k or less they OWN that price bracket.

Find me another brand new car that runs 10s bone stock, looks as good as the Hellcat, and is as generally comfortable. A GTR runs high 10s stock I believe and those are 100k+.

I was under the impression that the high 10 run was on a set of DR's and that the stock rubber pulled a still outstanding low 11sec 1/4.

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

I was under the impression that the high 10 run was on a set of DR's and that the stock rubber pulled a still outstanding low 11sec 1/4.

Yes. 10.8 on a street legal DR. IDK where all this "slick" talk is coming from. Remember this was also done during the summer.

I believe once in owners hands and in more favorable weather there indeed will be 10 sec bone stock passes.

If/when tuning comes available it might just be a 9 sec car with minor bolt on's. That's insane for ANY car much less a 4500lb boat.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[archtaan]

snip