OK....... well remember that CTS-V Challenge? - Page 7

600hp-lpe · 12-16-2009, 08:26 PM

there aren't many people here who care about a BMW P.O.S. racing and losing to a CTS.

Especially on a Camaro Site.

Furthermore, the only thing he beat was Lutz. I would not consider Bob Lutz a driver.. he's an Exec at a car company.

The BMW guy won coming in 4th?

chevydude26 · 12-16-2009, 08:32 PM

how did he win when he came in 4th? Oh he beat a car exex lmao

Frank in MD · 12-16-2009, 08:32 PM

Yeah, this is pretty retarded. CTS-V won, it is the most bad-ass sedan around, and somehow this gets spun in BMW's favor?

I don't get it....

DkknightX · 12-16-2009, 08:34 PM

Only one way to stop a troll.....Throw stone acorns at him!

FenwickHockey65 · 12-16-2009, 08:37 PM

NO WAI! You beat a 70+ year old man! OMG!!

As for everyone else who LOST to Lutz...you just lost to a 70+ year old man.

Which is why Lutz is the bomb. And why the V-series Challenge was a win-win for GM no matter what.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-16-2009, 08:42 PM

This is not in the right area...*moved*

And for the record...that article is over a month old, and I'm getting tired of reading re-posts so...*merged*

chappy48 · 12-16-2009, 08:43 PM

No car won. Fanboys on either side would like to say there car won, but until you get the same driver in the same car making multiple, consistent, runs, you'll never know which is actually faster.

PS. The new M3 is an amazing automobile. Regardless of lap times, I'd rather have one of those then the CTS-V. Of course I'd rather have a Camaro then either one of those so...I WIN

*The_Blur* · 12-16-2009, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevydude26

how did he win when he came in 4th? Oh he beat a car exex lmao

The challenge was to beat Bob Lutz. The kid beat Bob Lutz.

TheCaptain · 12-17-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kaler

So who is this guy? Mystery Driver (Johnny O'Connell), CTS-V, ringer, 2:45:537 According to Car and Driver he had the fastest lap in the CTS-V.

FYI.. For the guys that have never seen an almost 5 sec. faster lap on a race track its a fricken HUGE gap.Im just say'n

Who is Johnny O'Connell? Are you serious? He is one of the drivers for Corvette Racing in the ALMS series!
But Speed hired/brought him on to beat Lutz in the V Challenge.

Zeus · 12-17-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The challenge was to beat Bob Lutz. The kid beat Bob Lutz.

The end.

Anyone who can't understand why he 'won' by coming in '4th' has a serious problem. This isn't M3 vs. CTS-V, this is Lutz vs. Cooper. So start acting like it.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-17-2009, 01:33 AM

I still don't think he "won"...and that's only because nobody was supposed to "win" in anything other than a game of chicken on a corporate level...

Zeus · 12-17-2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I still don't think he "won"...and that's only because nobody was supposed to "win" in anything other than a game of chicken on a corporate level...

Lutz issued the challenge to be on a personal level. Cooper beat Lutz.

How does he not win?

If you want to dig deeper it'd be a win-win because of the press it brought for the V... but Cooper DID beat Lutz.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-17-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

How does he not win?

He beat Lutz...but he did not win.

Winners are in first place, and regardless of whether Heinricy is a racer or not...he is in first, not this Cooper guy.

For the record, Heinricy could have driven a Prius, and I'd still make this argument, so it doesn't have to do with brand loyalty...

Zeus · 12-17-2009, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

He beat Lutz...but he did not win.

Winners are in first place, and regardless of whether Heinricy is a racer or not...he is in first, not this Cooper guy.

For the record, Heinricy could have driven a Prius, and I'd still make this argument, so it doesn't have to do with brand loyalty...

"Professional Challenge participants, if any, shall compete against a GM professional driver or appointed designee."

Straight from the CTS-V Challenge Website. Ironic that a pro-driver facing off against Lutz would be viewed as unfair, but a pro-driver facing off against Cooper is just dandy.

12-16-2009, 08:32 PM	#86
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12-16-2009, 08:32 PM	#87
Frank in MD Raining Blood Drives: 2014 SS Performance Sedan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: facebook Posts: 2,682	Yeah, this is pretty retarded. CTS-V won, it is the most bad-ass sedan around, and somehow this gets spun in BMW's favor? I don't get it.... __________________ Ordered 1/9/12 - Born 2/3/12 - Delivered 2/21/12 - '12 1SS/RS Summit White - TRADED. 2014 SS Performance Sedan #2974 - Red Hot 2 - S/R. & Spare. Built 01/09/14 #238 of 291 as configured

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12-16-2009, 08:42 PM	#90
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	This is not in the right area...moved And for the record...that article is over a month old, and I'm getting tired of reading re-posts so...merged __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

12-16-2009, 08:43 PM	#91
chappy48 Drives: 2010 Camaro Auto 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 878	No car won. Fanboys on either side would like to say there car won, but until you get the same driver in the same car making multiple, consistent, runs, you'll never know which is actually faster. PS. The new M3 is an amazing automobile. Regardless of lap times, I'd rather have one of those then the CTS-V. Of course I'd rather have a Camaro then either one of those so...I WIN __________________ Built by Jannetty Racing 670rwhp/649rwtq...Scariness to be determined. Jannety Racing forged 416. TVS2300 Supercharger w/Maggie Max Stage 2, 3.6 Pulley, Innovators West 8 rib conversion, OD rear Cog belt drive. Jannetty Racing Rough Idle Cam, LS3 Conversion. Jannetty Racing built 6l80e Trans, Jannetty Racing Custom Converter, Built rear diff w/ 3.45 gears, DSS driveshaft and 1400 hp axles. ADM Twin Pump Fuel System, ADM CAI, Dynatech 1 7/8" Coated Headers, Borla "S" Catback. Custom 18" Forgestar F14's, Nitto 305/45-18 DR's

12-16-2009, 08:26 PM	#85
600hp-lpe Drives: 2010 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NH Posts: 4,788	there aren't many people here who care about a BMW P.O.S. racing and losing to a CTS. Especially on a Camaro Site. Furthermore, the only thing he beat was Lutz. I would not consider Bob Lutz a driver.. he's an Exec at a car company. The BMW guy won coming in 4th?

12-16-2009, 08:34 PM	#88
DkknightX Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS/SC Stage 2 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Emerson, NJ Posts: 1,347 View My Garage	Only one way to stop a troll.....Throw stone acorns at him!

12-17-2009, 01:33 AM	#95
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	I still don't think he "won"...and that's only because nobody was supposed to "win" in anything other than a game of chicken on a corporate level... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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