People are evil

[Nessal]

Originally Posted by 90503

Absolutely, I agree. We for sure have a right to protect ourselves and our property, "when appropriate"...but sadly in our letigous society, if you don't at least file a police report or have some sort of evidence, you gotta really be careful...Certainly its possible to confront an individual while something is in progress...but afterwards...who knows!...lol

Very true. Our litigious society does shelter a lot of dickwads especially here in CA. The other day, I was at my brother's place. There were these two kids that would tease the neighbors dog and make them go completely CRAZY. The grandmother of the two kids threatened the home owner that she will sue her ass off if the dogs ever bit her "darlings".

[derklug]

I used to have cause to carry a sidearm, and it makes you feel like Billy Badass. The problem is that carrying does not allow you to act Billy Badass. The OP could have trailed the offender and reported it to the authorities, but that would be the most he should attempt. Escallating the incedent to a confrontation, while satisfying, is not the most prudent response. But if all else fails, two to center mass and one to the head.

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel

So I just returned home to Florida after a road trip with the family to New Mexico, and needed to run to the grocery store for some basics...milk, bread, etc... Naturally, having not driven my 2SS (Big Black)in over a week, I was having withdrawals, so I decided to take her out of the garage and really enjoy my trip to the store. So I'm sitting at a light with my windows down, listening to Third Day (Christian band) of all things, when some a-hole in the left turn lane decides to drive by me and spit into my window! Seriously!?!? Who does that!? I'd never even seen the guy...didn't pass them on the street...nothing.
There is a certain type of evil in this world that I do not understand, nor do I wish to. I can only chalk it up to the dude maybe having a miserable life, and wanting to do hateful things, to make other people miserable too. I don't want to be so arrogant as to assume it was because he was jealous of the car, but I can't rule it out. Ultimately, I think the guy was just a prick, and doing hateful things to other people makes him feel better about his own miserable existence.
I thought for a minute about chasing the guys down, (which would have been about a 10 second chase), but then what? Most people in this area carry guns, and I would hate to leave my kids fatherless over something so stupid. Hindsight, I could have at least followed them and called the police, because spitting on someone is considered aggravated assault in Florida, but again, hindsight is always 20/20. I was seriously dumbfounded. I still cannot believe it happened. The guy will get his in the end, I'm sure. I just wish I could be there to witness it.

Yes. People are evil, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by 3BCT4ID

thats why my passenger name is Glock and she is 45

Originally Posted by LittleMT

and mine is a Glock 23, gen 4....

but none the less, I wouldn't open fire because some asshat spit at my car....

I would hate to have to carry firearms for fear of safety. I guess we have a ways to go before our society becomes that way.
There are no carry permits here for anyone unless you a very specific profession (ie - Brinks, police detective), even the police can't carry (off duty), and not in uniform.
That really sucks when people need Glocks in their passenger seat just in case the have to blow somebody's brains out for self defence.

[Nessal]

Originally Posted by calbert1999

Yes. People are evil, unfortunately.





I would hate to have to carry firearms for fear of safety. I guess we have a ways to go before our society becomes that way.
There are no carry permits here for anyone unless you a very specific profession (ie - Brinks, police detective), even the police can't carry (off duty), and not in uniform.
That really sucks when people need Glocks in their passenger seat just in case the have to blow somebody's brains out for self defence.

I'm actually really surprised that Canada still even lets civilians own firearms although under very heavy restrictions. Personally, I feel that the government is doing a disservice by limiting your NATURAL BORN RIGHT to self defense. Evil is everywhere. You don't know when it's going to strike. Would you rather have the ability to defend your life and your family's life when the time comes or be at the mercy of said evil? I'm generally not the type of person to sit back and wait for an outcome. There is a saying that goes, "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6." When it comes to you and your family's safety, it would be irresponsible NOT to be prepared to protect them when needed. Just my 2 cents.

[liquidsmoke]

Originally Posted by Nessal

I'm surprised this is coming from a guy that lives in Chicago where you have so many sheeple like we do here in the bay. It's refreshing for a change.

Btw, if it happened to me, I would have chased the guy down and at least have said something. But I would not escalate it to physical violence unless it was done to me first.

I know exactly what you mean.
Some of us are still around, the older cats who actually settled things with fists when we were kids instead of guns. It's been a while since I've been in an actual fight, everybody wants to shoot first these days. Everyone is afraid to get punched. When I was growing up, you kicked ass and you got your ass kicked and was friends with the guy next week. Kids these days havnt been in a single fight there whole life and the first thing they want to do when someone steps on their shoe is pull a gun. It's really a shame. And in my honest opinion, these cats are more afraid than the people who are afraid of them. I know a lot of retards, some in my family. Unfortunately. I call them the estrogeneration. Lol.

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by Nessal

I'm actually really surprised that Canada still even lets civilians own firearms although under very heavy restrictions. Personally, I feel that the government is doing a disservice by limiting your NATURAL BORN RIGHT to self defense. Evil is everywhere. You don't know when it's going to strike. Would you rather have the ability to defend your life and your family's life when the time comes or be at the mercy of said evil? I'm generally not the type of person to sit back and wait for an outcome. There is a saying that goes, "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6." When it comes to you and your family's safety, it would be irresponsible NOT to be prepared to protect them when needed. Just my 2 cents.

I agree to a point. There is nothing to stop Canadians from protecting ourselves. But, there is "no need" to "carry" guns here in public. There aren't any places that are so dangerous that you need to carry loaded firearms.

You can own weapons for target, hunting, collecting or competitive shooting but you cannot claim you're carrying a .45 caliber H&K, or an AR-15 because you fear for your life. There is nothing here to fear that would warrant carrying that kind of fire power.

We can own as many guns as we want, and if someone enters your home and you get your Glock 9mm. and bust a cap in their ass because they're threatening you or your family, as long as you did it in self defence your good, but you can't go outside with a concealed / or non-concealed weapon and put a gun in someone's face because they spit on your car. Plus, considering it's never ever happened, we don't anticipate para-troopers from the United Arab Emirates, Iran, Palestine or Russia jumping out of airplanes to steal our water or take our children and we're not paranoid in believing aliens are planning an attack on us either. LOL
So, no point in carrying guns unless you're robbing a bank, and if you do that our RCMP will hunt you down like a dog to every corner of the globe until they bring you back to pay for your crimes. And, if you kill someone here, we don't let you off with an injection, you're doing "life" as in "real life" in prison.

I would not trade that for having to walk around with a gun, on my way to the 7-11 to get a frosty drink, that's not freedom and democracy were I'm from. Seems to me something wrong with being free, but having to carry a gun. Maybe that's just me.

Perhaps, at some point in the future we'll be there, but thank God for now we haven't evolved to that point yet.

[Blk-Ice]

I'm so glad that has never happened to me! I'm from tha South and spitting on someone is almost as bad as slappin their momma! I've considered getting a concealed permit too....however my time in some shit hole places on this planet has given me low tolerance and an itchy trigger finger so having a concealed permit might not be a good idea for me right now.

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by Blk-Ice

I'm so glad that has never happened to me! I'm from tha South and spitting on someone is almost as bad as slappin their momma! I've considered getting a concealed permit too....however my time in some shit hole places on this planet has given me low tolerance and an itchy trigger finger so having a concealed permit might not be a good idea for me right now.

You and everybody else, that's why it's not a good idea to let everybody and anybody carry guns around.

One bad day and people start shooting innocent people, that's not cool.
I've never, ever heard during a psychopathic rampage the psycho getting shot by a legal gun owner. Why is that, when so many people have the right to carry guns?

The theory that everyone has a right to carry a gun to defend themselves sounds great on paper but really doesn't work because it rarely ever happens that some gun owner shoots someone in a life / death situation.

Usually, innocent people get hurt or worse by some regular schmuck that couldn't deal with society anymore and when he snapped, loaded up his "legal" carry firearm and started popping shots in people.

That's why strict gun controls and laws work. So, few people want to take the time to learn how to handle firearms safely to get their permit and the 6-12mos. application process, they rather blow off steam drinking beer and getting into the occasional fist fight and go home.

Our "strict" gun legislation came into effect when that same thing happened here in Montreal, our government took the proper measures to ensure anyone who wants a firearm needs to go through strict training and application process to make sure people who own guns are stable minded people. It's just good common sense, and sometimes just because it's right doesn't mean it should be a privileged right for everybody.

[CamaroSkooter]

Read the majority of this thread, got bored and skipped to the end.

Whenever something like this happens, here's what you should do:

1) Immediately write down the vehicle make, model, color and license plate number.
2) Call your local police jurisdiction's non-emergency phone number. If you don't know the number, get on the internet RIGHT NOW and find out. Store it in your cell phone. Don't call 911. It's not a life or death situation.
3) Inform the police what happened and let them know what direction the idiots were traveling. If you want to follow them, you can, but leave plenty of space and don't provoke the situation.
4) Do not stop if they stop. Keep going and inform the police where they stopped.

For those of you who have concealed carry permits, you should know that using your weapon should NOT be your primary solution. Besides, do you really want a low-life like this getting off that easy? Of course not.

[Ozzie RS]

Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel

So I just returned home to Florida after a road trip with the family to New Mexico, and needed to run to the grocery store for some basics...milk, bread, etc... Naturally, having not driven my 2SS (Big Black)in over a week, I was having withdrawals, so I decided to take her out of the garage and really enjoy my trip to the store. So I'm sitting at a light with my windows down, listening to Third Day (Christian band) of all things, when some a-hole in the left turn lane decides to drive by me and spit into my window! Seriously!?!? Who does that!? I'd never even seen the guy...didn't pass them on the street...nothing.
There is a certain type of evil in this world that I do not understand, nor do I wish to. I can only chalk it up to the dude maybe having a miserable life, and wanting to do hateful things, to make other people miserable too. I don't want to be so arrogant as to assume it was because he was jealous of the car, but I can't rule it out. Ultimately, I think the guy was just a prick, and doing hateful things to other people makes him feel better about his own miserable existence.
I thought for a minute about chasing the guys down, (which would have been about a 10 second chase), but then what? Most people in this area carry guns, and I would hate to leave my kids fatherless over something so stupid. Hindsight, I could have at least followed them and called the police, because spitting on someone is considered aggravated assault in Florida, but again, hindsight is always 20/20. I was seriously dumbfounded. I still cannot believe it happened. The guy will get his in the end, I'm sure. I just wish I could be there to witness it.

Fellow Navy Comrade,

You know as well as I know "What comes around goes around". You are the bigger man and did the right thing. He will eventually get his due, believe me.

[SSGUNNER]

Wow. Thats a first. Sorry bro.

[L99SS]

Originally Posted by calbert1999

One bad day and people start shooting innocent people, that's not cool.
I've never, ever heard during a psychopathic rampage the psycho getting shot by a legal gun owner. Why is that, when so many people have the right to carry guns?

The theory that everyone has a right to carry a gun to defend themselves sounds great on paper but really doesn't work because it rarely ever happens that some gun owner shoots someone in a life / death situation.

Usually, innocent people get hurt or worse by some regular schmuck that couldn't deal with society anymore and when he snapped, loaded up his "legal" carry firearm and started popping shots in people.

That's why strict gun controls and laws work. So, few people want to take the time to learn how to handle firearms safely to get their permit and the 6-12mos. application process, they rather blow off steam drinking beer and getting into the occasional fist fight and go home.

Our "strict" gun legislation came into effect when that same thing happened here in Montreal, our government took the proper measures to ensure anyone who wants a firearm needs to go through strict training and application process to make sure people who own guns are stable minded people. It's just good common sense, and sometimes just because it's right doesn't mean it should be a privileged right for everybody.

Sent ya a PM.

[Pappa Joe]

I carry the fraternal twins, Glock and Beretta.


What the hell is wrong with you guys? Nothing says love like 2 1911s

[Secret Squirrel]

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

1) When someone does something like this, what they have done is "proven without a reasonable doubt", that you are qualified to say someone is Trash, and not feel guilty, or feel you exaggerated using the term "Trash". The spitter is Trashy Trash.

Question However:

Were you BLASTING your music with the windows down and FORCING A CAR RIGHT NEXT TO YOU TO LISTEN TO THAT? I hate people who BLAST their stereo and FORCE me to Listen to RAP MUSIC, TEJANO MUSIC, PUNK MUSIC....I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO SOMEONE ELSE'S STEREO just because I am at a stoplight. You shouldn't be SPIT on for that, but some people might get angry about that. Turn the radio DOWN at a stoplight, then turn it back up after you are moving and not disturbing anyone.

That is a valid question, and the answer is no. I hate when people blast their music as well, and I'm too old to blast it. Third Day isn't exactly music you bump to anyway. With my Cam, LT headers, etc...nobody would be able to hear the music over the sound of the car anyway. I can barely hear my own music most of the time, unless I really crank it up.